m40hn + 4derm

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I'm looking for an effective lean mass stack with minimal sides. Would this be a good one? thanks,

steve
 
You will bloat on 4ad, but it's good for mass. If you don't mind holding some water, it'll be fine. 1-test will be much better for dry gains. I am on that stack now.
 
Long, Im trying to put on some mass, but my main goal is strength. I'm loading up on 4AD+ trans for 1.5 weeks before I actually start to hit the 4OHN. I'm doing cardio ED for 25-30 minutes and taking ripped fuel (original formula w/ eph), by doing those two things, I'm trying to combat the water retention. I'm also taking creatine ED as well. Question is this, if I do bloat some, how long will it take to go away once I end the 4AD trans?
 
Cardio & ECA will not help much with estrogen related water retention. The water will come off about 2 days after you stop. it's really not a big deal. If it gets to be too much while on, dandelion root will help.

I've been on M4OHN for over 3 weeks & I haven't seen any strength gains yet. If you want to gain strength, I'd keep running the 4ad or add 1-test.
 
I started at 8mg & gradually increased. I have been at 20mg for about 15 days. I added some 1-test on day 12 too.
 
long so whats your overall opinion on the m4ohn,,,,would you say its lived up to the hype or still to early to pass judgement
 
oswizzle said:
long so whats your overall opinion on the m4ohn,,,,would you say its lived up to the hype or still to early to pass judgement
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I don't know where all the hype came from. M4OHN was never touted as a great mass/strength drug, but now that it's everywhere people are thinking it will rival M1t. Sledge's beta testers both gained 2-3 lbs & lost a little BF in I think 4-6 weeks. And that's what should be expected, especially when run alone.

I've had no sides at all. So far, I look leaner while still remaining muscular- no weight gain. I'm sure I will gain some strength & maybe a few lbs over the next 3 weeks on it, & that's all I was expecting. I love it for my current goals, stay lean & muscular for the summer without bloating. If you are going for strength & size, look elsewhere or stack it with something else. You'll be disappointed if you're looking to gain 10-15lbs on it.
 
but as far as for leaning out its good? what would u stack it with next time around for solid lean gains?
 
oswizzle said:
but as far as for leaning out its good? what would u stack it with next time around for solid lean gains?
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I threw in some 1-test during week 2, it's working well. I'll run them both in the future.
 
As usual, I agree with Long lol.

I'm in week 4 of m4OHN and like it a lot. No sides except maybe a touch of mild lethargy after dosing. Ended my cut just to see what this compound can do. Have gained back about 4 lbs so far. Muscles staying fuller and mild to occassionally painful pumps.

No noticable strength gains so far.

Plan to stack it with a 4AD/OHT dermal in a week or two and run a long 10 weeker as long as shut down doesn't get too bad.
 
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