Looking for a strong pwo without nitrates

[Stopstalking2]

Was checking out all out ultra and was almost sold until I saw it includes nitrosigine, this is something I haven’t tried and was wondering if it’s a nitrate ?

I take daily cialis so I’m avoiding nitrates.

If it is a nitrate is there anything you guys recommend trying that doesn’t include any. I love me some
Stims I miss the OG craze

 

[Jstrong20]

Lots of m stim heavy pres out. I like crack gold by dark labs and I'm pretty sure it has no nitrates. Others you can check are Zeus, arez titanium, dvst8, gulag, street series, Helios, assassin, defiant unleashed, god of rage. Those all rate well and are high stim. I'm sure most don't have nitrates but you'll have to check the labels. There is a guy with a YouTube channel that reviews all the stim heavy pres. He has t steered me wrong yet. Flame, assassin, crack, and , crack gold are all super strong. Crack was my favorite though and loaded with dmaa.

 

[ELROCK]

Lots of m stim heavy pres out. I like crack gold by dark labs and I'm pretty sure it has no nitrates. Others you can check are Zeus, arez titanium, dvst8, gulag, street series, Helios, assassin, defiant unleashed, god of rage. Those all rate well and are high stim. I'm sure most don't have nitrates but you'll have to check the labels. There is a guy with a YouTube channel that reviews all the stim heavy pres. He has t steered me wrong yet. Flame, assassin, crack, and , crack gold are all super strong. Crack was my favorite though and loaded with dmaa.

I was going to suggest a lot of the same ones you did. OP I would try one of those.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Pyschotic Gold is actually one of their better ones off the insane labz lineup , but it does have agmatine. No specific nitrates, though. I really enjoyed my experience with it.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

@Jstrong20 @ELROCK Crack gold seems pretty intimidating lmao.

 

[Jstrong20]

@Jstrong20 @ELROCK Crack gold seems pretty intimidating lmao.

Crack has more dmaa and more pump ingredients but crack gold has dmaa and dmha, less pump ingredients but more servings. I highly recommend either just start with half a serving. 3/4 a serving is what I stuck with usually as a full serving was a little to much for me. I think most things that claim dmaa don't have it. I believe dark labz actually puts it in there. The focus is great with either one. I should just get more of that but like everybody else I like to try new stuff. Lol I'm going to either try street series or Helios. Also there is a crack reloaded I've never tried but I can't imagine ever topping the other two.

 

[Rad83]

 

[Renew1]

Was checking out all out ultra and was almost sold until I saw it includes nitrosigine, this is something I haven’t tried and was wondering if it’s a nitrate ?

I take daily cialis so I’m avoiding nitrates.

If it is a nitrate is there anything you guys recommend trying that doesn’t include any. I love me some
Stims I miss the OG craze

if you're trying to stay away from Nitrates, I'd stay away from Arginine.

 

[Afi140]

Nitrosigene is not nitrates, it’s arginine silicate. All out ultra is a great pre. It isn’t insane stim level (which I personally prefer). Really clean pre that delivers well. Shouldn’t be too much combined with cialis but that’s up to you. We have peach mango which I believe is their newest flavor.

All Out by Iconic Formulations

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[Stopstalking2]

Nitrosigene is not nitrates, it’s arginine silicate. All out ultra is a great pre. It isn’t insane stim level (which I personally prefer). Really clean pre that delivers well. Shouldn’t be too much combined with cialis but that’s up to you. We have peach mango which I believe is their newest flavor.

All Out by Iconic Formulations

Ready to go ALL OUT!? Iconic is, and they bring you two solid choices when it comes to taking your workout to momumental levels!

www.strongsupplementshop.com

This what I was looking for, I really wasn’t sure if it was a nitrate or not. I’ll give it a try and just keep an eye on blood pressure

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Crack has more dmaa and more pump ingredients but crack gold has dmaa and dmha, less pump ingredients but more servings. I highly recommend either just start with half a serving. 3/4 a serving is what I stuck with usually as a full serving was a little to much for me. I think most things that claim dmaa don't have it. I believe dark labz actually puts it in there. The focus is great with either one. I should just get more of that but like everybody else I like to try new stuff. Lol I'm going to either try street series or Helios. Also there is a crack reloaded I've never tried but I can't imagine ever topping the other two.

Thanks man! I haven’t had pre in months , so I’m looking for something to slap. I trust dark labs going by experiences and would use 1/2 scoop maybe once a week so it would last. Fitnessdealsnews and a few others rated it highly

 

[Iwilleattuna]

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Lol u ain’t as hardcore as me

I just picked up SHORT DATED dollar store egcg , cinnamon and potassium . 2-3$ for the bundle

 

[Smont]

Hey, if you wanna just go straight to the crack I'm slingin

DMAA – MA Research Chems

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[Smont]

Lol

 

[Rad83]

In b4 “Tyrone biggums, y’all got any more of that crack?”

Also @Iwilleattuna I think one of the dark labs crack pres has yohimbine in it,…can’t remember if it was you that disliked it or nah

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Hey, if you wanna just go straight to the crack I'm slingin

DMAA – MA Research Chems

maresearchchems.net

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That's actually a good option here! LMAO . Most pres have some sort of nitrate

 

[Iwilleattuna]

In b4 “Tyrone biggums, y’all got any more of that crack?”

Also @Iwilleattuna I think one of the dark labs crack pres has yohimbine in it,…can’t remember if it was you that disliked it or nah

Bro, I have no idea but I've had samples with alpha yohimbine . One messes me up , the other is great ! At similar doses . No clue. I am fine with yo hcl

And yeah, the name I never liked the idea of lol

 

[Iwilleattuna]

@Rad83 Psychotic gold has a good dose of alpha y and I love it.

 

[Smont]

That's actually a good option here! LMAO . Most pres have some sort of nitrate

It's the missing ingredient to..... Every pre workout lol. I can't even use it, it makes me feel like I'm on drugs lol

 

[Smont]

Bro, I have no idea but I've had samples with alpha yohimbine . One messes me up , the other is great ! At similar doses . No clue. I am fine with yo hcl

And yeah, the name I never liked the idea of lol

What actually is alpha y

 

[Iwilleattuna]

What actually is alpha y

rauwolfia vomitoria

 

[Smont]

rauwolfia vomitoria

What a name lol

 

[Iwilleattuna]

What a name lol

The ironic thing is that it can actually make you feel like you're going to vomit lmao

 

[Stopstalking2]

Hey, if you wanna just go straight to the crack I'm slingin

DMAA – MA Research Chems

maresearchchems.net

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I forgot to mention that it outs me to sleep. Makes me so damn sleepy

 

[Rad83]

The ironic thing is that it can actually make you feel like you're going to vomit lmao

“Vomit” I was gonna say the same thing!

I’ve known a few people to completely hate pre workouts cuz the tried one, with some form of yohimbine and got sick….but don’t know enough or care to learn, that it’s literally just one ingredient that they need to avoid

 

[LeanEngineer]

This what I was looking for, I really wasn’t sure if it was a nitrate or not. I’ll give it a try and just keep an eye on blood pressure

Nice! You'll have to let us know how you like it!

 

[Smont]

I forgot to mention that it outs me to sleep. Makes me so damn sleepy

It should do the total opposite of that

 

[Smont]

I forgot to mention that it outs me to sleep. Makes me so damn sleepy

Stim-Freak – MA Labs

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How bout dmha

 

[Smont]

By the way, if anyone has used stim freak or methyl blue pm me or go to my chill time training log and share your experience. I have not used either of those myself. I plan on trying one outvsoon

 

[Stopstalking2]

It should do the total opposite of that

It’s the crash for me. It’s like I can’t force myself to stay up

 

[Smont]

It’s the crash for me. It’s like I can’t force myself to stay up

Thst makes sense

 

[N2ofusion]

OP, why not just get a fat burner pill? Seems like the best way to find stims and not worry about lowering BP too much.