Letro/Epi/Tamo. . . for my monkey=)

[we1todd2it3]

say my monkey had a mild case of gyno and was 170lbs. . .
what do u guys think??
too toxic??
is the low-dose epi enough to suppress rebound??


Letro/Epi/Tamo cycle

Letrozole(2.5mg/ml)
Day 1 - .5 mg
Day 2 – 1
Day 3 – 1
Day 4 – 1.5
Day 5 – 1.5
Day 6 – 1.5
Day 7 – 1.5
Day 8 – 2
-continue until gyno is gone + 5 days
-taper down .5 every 3 days

Epistane
Wk 1 – 10 mg/day (start to overlap letro at 1mg dose)
Wk 2 – 20 mg/day
Wk 3 – 20 mg/day

Tamoxifen Citrate(20mg/ml)
Wk 1 – 40 mg/day
Wk 2 – 40 mg/day
Wk 3 – 30 mg/day
Wk 4 – 20 mg/day
Wk 5 – 10 mg/day for 4 days

&(starting w/ Tamo((wk1))

Hyperdrol X2 – 3/ed (spread out)

&(starting w/ Tamo((wk1))

Retain 2 – 1-2-3-3-2-1 (spread out)


Support Supplements
 Multi
 Fish Oil x2/day
 Life Support x3/day
 Whey Protein
 Creatine/Dextrose/Taurine mix

 

[we1todd2it3]

o, btw sry if its confusing, when i say week1 of epi, that isnt rly week 1, it starts whenever i start to taper down the letro to 1mg/day. same with the tamo, it starts after epi. . .

 

[we1todd2it3]

just wondering if you guys think this would be a legitimate gyno reduction cycle maybe w/ some strength gains as well??any comments, ideas, concerns would be appreciated. out

 

[dkkon1]

So what your trying to say is that youre going to run the Letro 5 days past the point where the gyno is gone, then you will start to taper it down. Upon reaching 1mg/day on the taper you will incorporate the epistane for 3 wks. And then you will basically run the Tamox as PcT. If this is correct I'd have to say that i don't think that it is the best idea. I think your setting yourself up for gyno rebound during the epi. Although epi may be an anti-e to some degree i don't think it will be sufficient to stave off the rebound that will come after you stop the letro. I think you should forget the epistane, it will not do anything that the letro won't.
Here's my advice:

Letro:
Day 1 - .25 mg
Day 2 – .5
Day 3 – .75
Day 4 – 1
Day 5 – 1.25
Day 6 – 1.5
Day 7 – 1.75
Day 8 – 2 (Until gyno is gone +5 days)

After the gyno is gone and you have stayed at 2mg for the 5 days. Start the taper down:

Day 1-1.75mg (Taper down starts)
Day 2 –1.5
Day 3 –1.25
Day 4 –1
Day 5 –.75
Day 6 –.5
Day 7 –.25

Even after .25mg/day Estrogen rebound could still be a concern. That is why I recommend you use the tamox starting the day after you cease the Letro. The tamox will prevent Estro sides from a rebound without suppressing the estrogen this will prevent a second rebound. So here's the last part starting the the day after the Taper down of the Letro has ended:

(Notice there is less tamox being used because you're no longer trying to eradicate the gyno you're just controlling the estro rebound)

Tamox:
Wk 1 – 40 mg/day
Wk 2 – 30 mg/day
Wk 3 – 20 mg/day
Wk 4 – 10 mg/day

Well I think I deserve a prize for that Just kidding!!!
Hope that helped man.

 

[we1todd2it3]

what if i was to run a low dose of letro through the epi, like .25-.5mg/day or eod??? what about runnnig low dose SERM through the epi?? i was just wondering because i have a little epi left and have heard that letro can cause strength/mass loss. . . .i was thinking that the epi would help me by keeping me at lower e2 levels for the gyno, and raise some test to help with the strength, and libido problems that accompany letro. . . thoughts??

 

[dkkon1]

I don't think this is the best time to run epi, but if you must i'd recommend running it with .25 letro the whole time. If I were you I would run the letro, taper down to .25mg/day then start the epi, without ever stopping the letro (delaying the possible rebound until Pct) until PCT.

 

[we1todd2it3]

Made a few small changes, anyone have any opinions/suggestions??

Letro/Epi/Tamo Cycle

Letrozole(2.5mg/ml)
Day 1 - .75 mg
Day 2 – 1
Day 3 – 1
Day 4 – 1.5
Day 5 – 1.5
Day 6 – 1.5
Day 7 – 2
-Continue until gyno is gone + 5 days
-Taper down .5 every 3 days, continue at .5-.25ed through Epistane Cycle

Epistane
Wk 1 – 10 mg/day (start to overlap letro at 1mg dose)
Wk 2 – 20 mg/day
Wk 3 – 20 mg/day

Tamoxifen Citrate(20mg/ml)
Wk 1 – 40 mg/day
Wk 2 – 40 mg/day
Wk 3 – 30 mg/day
Wk 4 – 20 mg/day
Wk 5 – 10 mg/day for 4 days
&
Retain 2 – 1-2-3-3-2-1 (spread out)

Starting Wk4 of Tamo: Hyperdrol X2 – 3-3-3-3 (spread out)

Support Supplements
 Multi
 Fish Oil x2/day
 Cycle Support 1.5 scoops/day(starting with Tamo)
 Whey Protein(throughout)
 BCAAs
 Creatine/Dextrose/Taurine mix(from beginning until gone)
 Gut Health(starting Wk4 of Tamo)
 Animal Flex(starting Wk4 of Tamo)