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kickstart with dbol, finishing with winny. too close/too long?

Nightwanderer

Nightwanderer

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later this year I'd like to run 500mg/wk test E for 15 wks, while kickstarting with dianabol for the first 30 days (20mg day) and finishing out the last 40 days with 50mg of winny to help de-bloat/harden up at the end. I'm a bit concerned that that only leaves me about 4 weeks of in between time where I'm not using an oral. as long as I never stop taking my liver support supps during this time does this still seem a bit too harsh/irresponsible?

secondary question:
my dbol would theoretically be a 100ct packet of 10mg tabs. Now, I hear the old school pros used 20-25mg doses of the orals commonly, so I figured it's enough for results. I'm curious too see whether or not people here will tell me to either up the dosage to 30mg/daily or save the leftovers.
 
dbol @ 25-30mg was all i needed. added 10 solid pounds in 2 weeks. about 15lbs in 3-4 weeks.

cycle looks great.

remember to run the winny the 2 weeks while the test ester is clearing! right up until PCT
 
nosnmiveins said:
dbol @ 25-30mg was all i needed. added 10 solid pounds in 2 weeks. about 15lbs in 3-4 weeks.
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that sounds nice, did you use it with test? if so how were the gains as you went along after the dbol? I would think if you pack on 15 lbs in a month even though you've only just started with the test you wouldn't be packing on weight in huge chunks anymore.
 
Nightwanderer said:
that sounds nice, did you use it with test? if so how were the gains as you went along after the dbol? I would think if you pack on 15 lbs in a month even though you've only just started with the test you wouldn't be packing on weight in huge chunks anymore.
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yes i used it alongside test. after i stopped the dbol, gains slowed quickly but i was able to pack on 10 more solid pounds. my bf% stayed about the same as when i started.

id recommend 6 weeks of dbol if u plan on dosing it @ 20-30mg. looking back i wish i would have done that.
 
Nightwanderer said:
later this year I'd like to run 500mg/wk test E for 15 wks, while kickstarting with dianabol for the first 30 days (20mg day) and finishing out the last 40 days with 50mg of winny to help de-bloat/harden up at the end. I'm a bit concerned that that only leaves me about 4 weeks of in between time where I'm not using an oral. as long as I never stop taking my liver support supps during this time does this still seem a bit too harsh/irresponsible?

secondary question:
my dbol would theoretically be a 100ct packet of 10mg tabs. Now, I hear the old school pros used 20-25mg doses of the orals commonly, so I figured it's enough for results. I'm curious too see whether or not people here will tell me to either up the dosage to 30mg/daily or save the leftovers.
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IMO, 20-30mgs ED is plenty to see decent results I personally do not go higher than 30 anymore as the bloat is no fun. I would keep some a-dex on hand in case the bloat gets bad. I have used almost every common AAS and I have never needed an AI until I used D-bol. Proviron, has always contolled any estro-related sides for me and also it skyrockts my libido, its truly a godsend. However; I no longer have access to it, so when running a compound like Dbol I have to use Adex at .25mgED or .5mgsEOD and it works good. As far as the Winny goes, it will help harden you up nicely and its great for strength and endurance. You wont have any bloat with the Winny as Winny helps in controlling bl0at farily well. If you have access to Proviron I would run that through the entire cycle or esp with the Dbol and you may not need the AI; however; not all respond to Proviron as far as estro sides are concerned. Looks like a good cycle. As you know keep you diet and training spot on and you should really see some results, good luck!
 
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