In your opinion, what are some of the “safer” steroids?

[bouldershoulders]

I know it’s not black and white answer.

 

[ValiantThor08]

Anavar. Turinbol. Testosterone. Primo.

 

[Coriandru]

injectable primabolan and testosterone enantante or cipionate , after maybe anavar

 

[enhanced]

I thought var was known to Jack up cholesterol levels really bad?

 

[Jackedzombie]

I thought var was known to Jack up cholesterol levels really bad?

It kills HDL horribly, but is mostly mild everywhere else. Tbol is similar. They are still generally two of the safest (as in low-ish overall side effect profile) steds though provided they aren’t used in high doses or for long periods.

My list would be:
Test E or C
Equipoise
Tbol
Var

Of course how you dose and cycle any PED is massively important for the risk/benefit ratio - even these can cause havoc if not used sensibly.

 

[thebigt]

as far as 'safe' goes look at iconic formulations black series.

 

[Jackedzombie]

Oh I forgot Proviron- one of my favorite PEDs and definitely the safest oral. The only thing with it though is that it’s definitely not a stand alone and only really useful as a secondary in cycles with multiple injectables to enhance the benefits of those.

 

[johnny412]

It kills HDL horribly, but is mostly mild everywhere else. Tbol is similar. They are still generally two of the safest (as in low-ish overall side effect profile) steds though provided they aren’t used in high doses or for long periods.

My list would be:
Test E or C
Equipoise
Tbol
Var

Of course how you dose and cycle any PED is massively important for the risk/benefit ratio - even these can cause havoc if not used sensibly.

not posting links and polls yet?

 

[JKVol]

It kills HDL horribly, but is mostly mild everywhere else. Tbol is similar. They are still generally two of the safest (as in low-ish overall side effect profile) steds though provided they aren’t used in high doses or for long periods.

My list would be:
Test E or C
Equipoise
Tbol
Var

Of course how you dose and cycle any PED is massively important for the risk/benefit ratio - even these can cause havoc if not used sensibly.

You can take Apex Alchemy Helios. It’s a TD Curcumin that helps with cholesterol. I ran it with a Var cycle and my HDL was out of range but it wasn’t killed. I don’t have pre bloods but I’ve never had cholesterol issues before. My overall cholesterol and ratio was fine but my HDL was a little off.

 

[Jackedzombie]

You can take Apex Alchemy Helios. It’s a TD Curcumin that helps with cholesterol. I ran it with a Var cycle and my HDL was out of range but it was killed. I don’t have pre bloods but I’ve never had cholesterol issues before. My overall cholesterol and ratio was fine but my HDL was a little off.

Yep there are definitely a few things that can help. I’ve had great success offsetting drugs that kill HDL with low dose cardarine. You can actually offset a lot of the negative effects of PEDs to meaningful degrees with the right ancillaries - the issue is finding the right balance and sometimes having what you need on hand.

 

[BigGame84]

Cardio and citrus bergamot can also help with cholesterol. Maybe even Androsterone.

 

[BBiceps]

I think “safe” is dose dependent, Test is safe in low/moderate doses but high doses comes with bad sides for an example. But the “safer” PED’s in low/moderate doses (I think) would be Test, Deca, Var and Primo.

 

[Whisky]

I agree with the suggestions above.

injectables generally better for health than orals and both test and deca (nandrolone technically) are naturally produced in the body anyway so those two would probably top my list.

obviously the devil is in the detail and things like doses would play a big part

 

[thebigt]

Cardio and citrus bergamot can also help with cholesterol. Maybe even Androsterone.

i'm running alpha seven now....over the last 2 years i've ran all of the black series products from iconic formulations all except ultra epi contain androsterone...my last bloods my cholesterol numbers were so good my doctor commented on it.

 

[BBiceps]

i'm running alpha seven now....over the last 2 years i've ran all of the black series products from iconic formulations all except ultra epi contain androsterone...my last bloods my cholesterol numbers were so good my doctor commented on it.

You promoting Iconic’s stuff so much it’s annoying, I understand you want to sell but it’s too much. You turning ppl away.

 

[JKVol]

You promoting Iconic’s stuff so much it’s annoying, I understand you want to sell but it’s too much. You turning ppl away.

Do you have any other threads where people have chosen not to buy a Iconic items because this guy promoted the products too much?

 

[Danksta710]

He over promotes and YES it's a turn off to people. Hard to take ANY of his comments serious when most are just clever answers with promotion of their products. I pretty much ignore his comments. No offense.

 

[BBiceps]

Do you have any other threads where people have chosen not to buy a Iconic items because this guy promoted the products too much?

^see the post above^

 

[JKVol]

^see the post above^

Not trying to be argumentative but he didn’t say anything about not buying from Iconic because he’s annoyed.

 

[BBiceps]

Not trying to be argumentative but he didn’t say anything about not buying from Iconic because he’s annoyed.

Lol, but you are.

 

[JKVol]

Lol, but you are.

But am I wrong?

 

[BBiceps]

But am I wrong?

Yes you are.

 

[thebigt]

He over promotes and YES it's a turn off to people. Hard to take ANY of his comments serious when most are just clever answers with promotion of their products. I pretty much ignore his comments. No offense.

i recently retired and found myself with more time on my hands than i have ever had. i didn't realize that i was getting carried away and thanked bbiceps for pointing this out to me and i will be walking down my posting here on AM--after many years of AA i value constructive criticism which is what i believe bbiceps was trying to do.....even though you added no offense at the end of this post i think you had every intention of offending and i found nothing constructive about it...

 

[JKVol]

Yes you are.

You haven’t showed me one person that has said they are not going to buy the product because of that guy. The one guy that posted you used as an example didn’t say he wasn’t buying the product.

 

[thebigt]

You promoting Iconic’s stuff so much it’s annoying, I understand you want to sell but it’s too much. You turning ppl away.

i just let rob know that i won't be repping for iconic any longer....if you have a problem with me please don't take it out on the company.

 

[BBiceps]

i just let rob know that i won't be repping for iconic any longer....if you have a problem with me please don't take it out on the company.

You overreacting, I already told you I don’t have a problem with you.