Help me on This Cycle....

maggmaster

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You may want to keep an eye on your bp while on ec + m1t they both can raise it and it could get into dangerous levels if your not careful.
 
Hey guys, I need some help....I want to do a cycle to help lean me out (and hopefully gain a few pounds).

age: 24 (in 2 weeks)
ht 5'9
wt: 200
bf%: 11-12
yrs train: 5-6 (some AS and PH experience)
I would like to hit 8-9% (i've been been there)

I have a solid build, but my fatass Italian genetics lend me to gaining weight (fat) easily around my midsection.

Anyway - I am going Mexico on May 22nd, and won't be able to start my cycle until April 10. Here is what I'm thinking:

M1T (1fast400) - 10mg/day
4ADerm - (6gram bottle) - 200mg/day (should I take this out completely?, I have heard the negatives of not running it while on M1T)
Nolva - post cycle

Do you think the 4ad will bloat me and gain too much weight?
I'll be doing weights 4 times/week, and cardio about 4 times too.

Also, with regards to fat burners, is it okay to stay on e and c.
Finally, if I stay on e/c, could I add Yohimbine to the mix (oral).

This would then give me 2 weeks to recover from my cycle before going down south.

Do you think 2 weeks is enough, knowing that I will be drinking while down there????

thanks for the help....
 
How long are you planning on running this?

The dosages look good, but you will definitely bloat from the 4ad. It shouldn't matter because it will come off 1-2 days into PCT. But I wouldnt take M1t without it.You could run letro if you dont want the bloat, or add some 4OHT to reduce it.

I would take clen or eca to cut, & add a transdermal yohimbine to use on the midsection?
 
Thanks for the input, sorry, 4 weeks would be the cycle.

Do you think running lipoderm and this stack at the same time would be okay?

Or perhaps run it 2 weeks into the cylce, then the 2 weeks as part of the post-cycle.
 
I am going to run lipoderm with clen & 1test/4ad in about a month. I see no problem with it. It would work either way.
 
Alright, I'd drop the e/c on this cycle, therefore it looks like this:

While I would like to finish the cycle before starting lipoderm, I don't have the time before I go away, and would like to finish the lipoderm 1 week before I go away as I read it takes some time for any water retention to flush out.

Please let me know if you think this level of 4ad while cause in bloating, or on a diet/cardio would allow me to cut.

Week 1
M1T - 10mg
4ad - 200mg

Week 2-4
M1T - 10mg
4ad -200mg
LipdoDerm-Ultra

Week 5
LipoDerm Ultra
Nolva 40mg

Week 6,7
Nolva 40mg, 20mg

thanks
 
Lipoderm Ultra has diuretics in it to keep you from holding water. The stuff around $40, so I am planning to just get the lipoderm-y for $20 & add a few grams caffeine. It should work almost as well at eliminating water.
 
Good call, I'll save my cash too and just use regular lipoderm-y.

Are you going to be running milk thistle or anything for the liver during your cycle?
 
I always take 600mg ALA & 600mg Milk Thistle while on M1t.

I just came off basically the same 4-week cycle & i got very bloated. I think the M1t contributes to bloating as weel as the 4ad. I started doing cardio 3x/week, but it really didnt help. I will definitely run letro with m1t/4ad in the summertime to eliminate the bloat. Since you're cutting, you may want to run an anti-e.
 
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