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first cycle epi

toiletduck

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first cycle of epi and wanted advice:

26 years old
12% bf
175 lbs.
very clean diet

goals:
trying to shred


Preloading: hawthorne extract and liver juice, also plan running it through the cycle along with fish oil, taurine, and CEM cycle support...... Advice?

PCT: Exclusive pharma Regenix, CEM Liquid Nolva, DAA...... Advice?

My Questions:

1. 4 week cycle or weeks for epi?

2. is my pct sufficient

3. when do i start the pct? week 3 or after my ph cycle assuming i do 4 weeks

Thanks for the help
 
No support supplements mentioned other than Hawthorne berry and fish oil. If you read, everyone says 4 weeks on Epi is pointless. Also, you would see PCT starts directly after cycle. Only you know your maintenance calories. So how would we tell you how much to eat to cut. Epi is a good cutter everyone says.

Just stuff I saw. And I am no guru.
 
1. 6 weeks

2. I'm not you so how would anyone but yourself know what your body can handle calorie wise.

3. Pct starts right when you finish with epi.
 
such as all of these questions have been answered a million times and its clear you didnt even bother to research before asking to be spoon-fed.

With that said, I am in a good mood today so...

5-6 weeks epi - 4 is a waste

start PCT the day after your last epi dose - run it 4 weeks

as for cals etc... thats dependant on what you are doing. Personally I would eat just above maintenance if you are trying to lean out. Epi is good for that.
 
you dont list a pct.... well you do, but not doses...
 
toiletduck said:
i was just concerned with if the products themselves were acceptable as a pct
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I don't know what the 1st product is you listed under pct but,

Nolva 20mgs/20/10/10
DAA 3G everyday 4 wks
And should have some sort of anti estrogen here.
 
toiletduck said:
i was just concerned with if the products themselves were acceptable as a pct
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you really should focus on diet and training at 6 and 170... you are a long way from needing anabolics..
 
correct me if i'm wrong every one but i think you should start your daa a week or 2 before the end of you cycle because it takes 12 days to kick in fully. try to cut to 9 percent bf before you do your cycle you'll see better results. and research erase by pes for anti estro. that's what i'm doing.
StangBanger said:
you really should focus on diet and training at 6 and 170... you are a long way from needing anabolics..
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Mind you, if you're using liquid nolva it's probably tamox citrate, which means you should be dosing 30mg for the first two weeks and 15mg for the next two weeks, as tamoxifen citrate converts to tamoxifen at a rate of 1.56:1.

Also, epi will dry out your joints. I suggest taking flaxseed oil, glutamine, and fish oil to combat the dry joints.

Also, dosing for the epi should probably look like 30/40/40/40/50/50 if you're a new guy to the compound. This is, of course provided that you have everything else in order. Judging by your questions I gather that you're still a little new to the game. Keep in mind that this is serious business and it will seriously affect your body. Keep in mind that the safest cycle is the cycle that is left undone.

Lastly, halflife of epi is about 6 hours, so plan your dosing accordingly. 1 dose upon wakeup, lunch, and then around 1700. Too late at night and it will disrupt your sleep patterns. Best of luck.
 
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