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Epistane & 3-AD Cycle

gforce100

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First time posting here, but have been reading for ages.

I'm thinking about doing an Epi/3-ad cycle later this year. I have already done a 4 week Epi cycle (30/30/30/40) with good recomp results and am now looking for a cycle to bulk.

On Cycle, I will have the obvious supps - Omega 3, Cycle Support, protein & a good multi.

For PCT, I plan to use Reversitol, Post Cycle Support and Lean Xtreme. I already have a SERM on hand (nolva). Other supps like ZMA, multi and Omega 3 will be there too.

I weigh 170lbs and my diet is in check. Am 31 and have been lifting for 4 years. This will be my second cycle using DS.

Has anyone had any experience with this stack? If so, what did your cycle look like, what was your dosing like? Any recommendations?
 
I am starting a Havoc/3-ad stack in March. Search the Anabolic Xtreme forum for the thread I started. The Title was like "Havoc / 3-ad stack suggestions". Tons of good info was exchanged. I would have posted the link but I dont have enough posts. Good Luck.
 
Thanks, I'll take a look.

Apologies for posting in the incorrect forum. My bad. Can a moderator pls move this?
 
This is still a new stack idea. No alot of logs out there on this stack. By the way the title of the thread in the Anabolic Xtreme forum was "Havoc / 3-AD Dosing???". Reps from both AX and RPN (Havoc and Epi are close to the same) were chiming it. Did you ever find the thread?

I plan on dosing mine at:

Wk1: 3-AD (6 pills / day)
Wk2: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30mg)
Wk3: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30mg)
Wk4: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30-40mg)
Wk5: Havoc (40mg)
 
Had a look around but still can't find it.

I got help from one of the reps tho (JonnyB). Given my weight (170lbs), he suggested the following:


Week 1: 3-AD (4 pills / Day)
Week 2: 3-AD (4 pills / Day)
Week 3: 3-AD (increase to 6 pills / Day if I feel I need it), Epi 20mg
Week 4: 3-AD (6 pills / Day), Epi 30mg
Week 5: 3-AD (6 pills / Day), Epi 30mg
Week 6: 3-AD (6 pills / Day), Epi 40mg

Given I've done an Epi cycle previously, I'll start at 30mg not 20 (except for the first day so that I use all 90caps).

Any reason you're doing a 5 week cycle instead of 6?
 
BigFish80 said:
This is still a new stack idea. No alot of logs out there on this stack. By the way the title of the thread in the Anabolic Xtreme forum was "Havoc / 3-AD Dosing???". Reps from both AX and RPN (Havoc and Epi are close to the same) were chiming it. Did you ever find the thread?

I plan on dosing mine at:

Wk1: 3-AD (6 pills / day)
Wk2: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30mg)
Wk3: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30mg)
Wk4: 3-AD (6 pills / day) & Havoc (30-40mg)
Wk5: Havoc (40mg)
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oh.. silly.

I thought you meant to look in the Anabolic Xtreme forum on the Anabolic Xtreme site as apposed to the AX forum on this site. Found the tread.. :lol:
 
I'm doing 5 weeks so that I can maximize overlap time with the 2 compounds. Since the Havoc is dry and methylated, and 3-AD is somewhat wet in nature and unmethylated the 2 should have a nice synergy in the body at the same time. The havoc also takes about a week to kick in for me so I hope to have the 3-AD in full swing while starting havoc. I personally like to get in and get to recovery quick. I seem to retain the most mass by doing this. Staying in the cycle longer just shuts me down more and takes me longer to recover and the net gains seem to be the same, so I go the classic month on and month PCT. This is the reason I've never been a fan of long cycles. This is what was also recommended to me by several. I hope this along with the other thread helps. Good Luck.
 
BigFish: How much do you weigh?

Do you think that 6 caps / Day might be a little to much for me at 170lbs to start off with?
 
gforce100 said:
BigFish: How much do you weigh?

Do you think that 6 caps / Day might be a little to much for me at 170lbs to start off with?
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I'm about 215lb at the moment. Not sure about the dosing for someone your size. That question may be better reserved for someone that wears an AX rep hat roaming around here. Logically 4 caps may be ok for you but, to each his own. Maybe start your stack with the 3-AD solo and get it dialed in and then kick in the havoc at like 30mg. Honestly this is why I am starting with the 3-AD, as I'm not sure how I'll respond to it. I know how well I respond to Havoc so thats why I am kicking that in second. This sort of gives me the ability to check out how I respond to 3-AD solo even if it is just for a short period of time. Just my 2 cents.
 
Once again, I agree with you.

I'll start with 3-AD at 4 caps. Bring in Epi at week 2 or 3 @ 30mg and bump 3-AD to 6caps if I feel I need.

With that said, I'll keep doing research until such time I start the cycle. Hopefully there will be more info on this stack by that time.

Thanks for your help!
 
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