Epi with PCT

Squier

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To start, I had gyno from puberty and then I took Tren when I was 21, which i believe made it worse. I have also smoked weed pretty much every day since I was 17. I am now 27. Exactly 1 year ago I had surgery to get the gyno removed, but they failed to remove all of it. Yes, it looks much better than before (good enough to be shirtless around people) but it still isn't all the way gone. I'm over it, I just dont want it to get worse.

Anyway, moving on. I have not started the cycle yet but I have ordered Epi, Vital Labs ProteX (liver support) and Vital Labs Post Cycle 3x. Post Cycle 3x is as follows:

Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings per container: 30

Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris 700mg **
Trans Resveratrol 50% 800mg **
Eurycoma Longfolia 100:1 100mg **
Caffeine 20mg **
Milk Thistle 200mg **
NAC 100mg **
ZMA, Zinc Aspartate 30mg **
Magnesium 400mg **
Indol-3-Carbinol 200mg **
Avena Sativa 400mg

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I was planning on running a low dose Epi for 6 weeks, basically 20mg every day and then taper off at the end instead of going up to 30mg or 40mg like I've seen some people do. Maybe something like:

Week 1,2,3,4,5: 20mg/day
Week 6: 10mg/day

Week 7,8,9,10: Post Cycle 3x everyday

Should I take tamoxifen, RALOXIFENE, or aromasin during my PCT? I also wanted to take this time to go ahead and try the Tamox or Ralox to possibly reduce some of the gyno that I have left since I've read about SOME people having a good experience with Ralox/Tamox in reducing gyno. Any suggestions out there?

Upon reading up on this topic more. Most people say 20mg is a waste and to do atleast 30mg. My main thing is that i'm worried about sides. Someone suggested to do only 4 weeks at 30mg if I am worried about sides.

Also, should I take DAA along with the Post Cycle 3x and SERM?
 
Dude there is no point! What's the point? You want tits again is that it? Low dose of EPi isn't gonna do anything. Your gyno prone wtf is the point!? Ahhhh
 
that's a very low dose of a very mild ph. i wouldn't be concerned but dont expect much if any gains
 
cutz said:
That could be a big reason he had tits
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Yes, exactly why I mentioned it. I still smoke weed everyday but I do not get the pain, itching etc that I used to get before the surgery.

Also, Epi seemed mild compared to others, which is why I decided I'd give it a try. Plus i wanted to do a low dose @ 20mg/day but many have said that 20 is a waste and you need atleast 30-40mg per day.
 
You replied as I was replying. Ok, it seems 30mg would be the minimum then. So maybe week 1 @ 20mg and the rest of the cycle @ 30mg. I see people taking 40 and even 70mg but im not trying to get too ridiculous with it. Maybe i'll go up to 40mg since that seems to be the sweet spot.
 
Squier said:
Yes, exactly why I mentioned it. I still smoke weed everyday but I do not get the pain, itching etc that I used to get before the surgery. Also, Epi seemed mild compared to others, which is why I decided I'd give it a try. Plus i wanted to do a low dose @ 20mg/day but many have said that 20 is a waste and you need atleast 30-40mg per day.
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Why bother bro just train harder. Don't mess with your hormones anymore. Get a quarter or half instead of getting worse gyno
 
I agree someone who is concerned with smoking weed every day isn't really about the lifestyle
 
I did these test after my gyno surgery btw..I was 26 at the time

Total Test 383 ng/dL (Range 241-827)
LH 4.45 mIU/mL (Range 1.5-9.3)
Estradiol 30.4 pg/mL (Range, Not Detectable - 39.8)

I seem to be on the lower range of test and higher range of Estradiol. I told the Doc that I just had gyno surgery and I was worried about getting gyno again but they said i'm at a normal range.
 
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