Epi = PA (soy phosphatidylcholine)

BeardedBreast

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So, if I'm taking 5 tbsp of Fern PA and two Ep1c, that's a whole lot of phosphatidylcholine.

Thoughts?
 
More accurately, soy lecithin contains 3.45g of phosphatidylcholine per 2 tbsp
 
BeardedBreast said:
More accurately, soy lecithin contains 3.45g of phosphatidylcholine per 2 tbsp
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How much PC is there in Ep1c? I know that there was a study that used 2.6g choline (from PC, so a LOT more PC than what you're taking) concluded that PC "slightly increased triacylglycerol concentrations in healthy humans. Previous studies of phosphatidylcholine and blood lipids showed no clear effect. Thus the effect of phosphatidylcholine supplementation on blood lipids remains inconclusive, but is probably not large," and also mentioned that the current tolerable upper intake of choline for adults is 3.5g/day, so I think you should be fine.
 
4 tbsp of Fern is nearly 7g of choline, not including the :
 

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BeardedBreast said:
So, if I'm taking 5 tbsp of Fern PA and two Ep1c, that's a whole lot of phosphatidylcholine.

Thoughts?
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Take a look at the study below. You'll be just fine : ) I take Fearn at doses ranging from 4-7 tbsp/day for months on top of Ep1C and have seen no issues. The (-)epi in Ep1C can even have a positive effect on blood lipids by itself.

34g of phosphatidylcholine (conferring 2,600mg of choline) failed to significantly influence the cholesterol profile of otherwise healthy aged men over the course of two weeks.

Olthof MR, et al Effect of homocysteine-lowering nutrients on blood lipids: results from four randomised, placebo-controlled studies in healthy humans . PLoS Med. (2005)
 
kboxer7 said:
Take a look at the study below. You'll be just fine : ) I take Fearn at doses ranging from 4-7 tbsp/day for months on top of Ep1C and have seen no issues. The (-)epi in Ep1C can even have a positive effect on blood lipids by itself.

34g of phosphatidylcholine (conferring 2,600mg of choline) failed to significantly influence the cholesterol profile of otherwise healthy aged men over the course of two weeks.

Olthof MR, et al Effect of homocysteine-lowering nutrients on blood lipids: results from four randomised, placebo-controlled studies in healthy humans . PLoS Med. (2005)
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Nice. That was the study I was talking about. There's also a study that 2g/day choline supplementation in taekwondo and judo athletes for one week before a competition "revealed significant differences between pre- and post-competition measurements of leptin, free plasma choline, urine choline and urine malondialdehyde levels; body mass was also reduced in the post-competition measurements. In conclusion, choline supplementation could rapidly reduce body mass without any side effects on biochemical levels or static strength."
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