does this astound anyone?

OmarJackson

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i was on another board and a national level amatuer was writing about his training/nutrition/gear.

he competes at about 240 and weighs 280 in the offseason. this is his gear as he is preparing for a show.

Cycles: Current that was gonna take me to the USA's
First 6 weeks bulking/mass
2000mg test enanthate wk
700mg test suspension wk
900mg deca wk
50mg dbol ed
75mg anadrol ed

Second 6 weeks hardening:
700mg test prop wk
600mg eq wk
40mg oral winny ed
35 mg anavar ed
150mg tren ed

Last 6 weeks leading to show time-cutting:
700mg test prop wk
600mg eq wk
50mg oral winny ed
100mg inj winny ed
75mg tren ed
35mg anavar ed
30mg halotestin ed
6 iu GH ed
up to 150mcg cytomel ed
140mcg clen ed
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Wow, he's gonna fucking die soon. Talk about irresponsible use. Guys like that are about as poor an ambassador for bodybuilding as can exist anywhere. He is stacking several different methylated orals for 18 straight weeks! :nutkick:

(sorry, I just love that smilie)
 
oh forgot to mention, he uses slin and GH both in the offseason and during show prep.

he also stays on test year round. but he is going for his pro-card.
 
I don't know, I wouldn't say he was going to die. That's what people who aren't as gifted have to do to compete sometimes.. IMHO it's not that crazy at all.

I agree that he should at least take a break with the orals in the middle.

what's wrong with a bulk then a cut Omar?
 
Ubiquitous said:
what's wrong with a bulk then a cut Omar?
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oh nothing really, i just hate it that on every board every single 18 year old's post is "i'm gonna bulk til X, then cut in preparation for Y and then bulk again til Z"

people are constantly taking 1 step forward and 1 step in this game and always wonder why the are spinning their wheels.

there is no such thing as cutting unless you are preparing for a show, otherwise you should always be trying to get bigger while staying as lean as you can be comfortable with. if your fat already its not called cutting, its called a diet.

anyway its just a pet-peeve, and i'm off topic.
 
I don't know, Ubiq., I don't claim to be an expert, but I've heard the concerns about methylated orals, and the concerns about long cycles w/methylated orals, and the dangers of stacking methylated orals. This guy is doing all of the above. It is his body and his choice what to do with it, but he could be giving others some really bad ideas.

If genetics are his problem, maybe he should find another line of work or try fitness modeling, where he doesn't need to bring his physique to the same level.
 
I agree with you for the most part Beo. Yes, stacking and prolonged duration is not good. And yes, bad message to send the young bb'ing community, as I know some big boys that only run test, no orals, and do fine.

But, the genetics thing... Some are very gifted, and some aren't.. they both compete.. You mean to tell me that everyone on this board that is interested in competition to any degree is genetically gifted? I think not bro. Some are just gifted with the will, pocketbook, and willingness to become a labrat.

:cheers:
 
Ubiquitous said:
But, the genetics thing... Some are very gifted, and some aren't.. they both compete.. You mean to tell me that everyone on this board that is interested in competition to any degree is genetically gifted? I think not bro. Some are just gifted with the will, pocketbook, and willingness to become a labrat.

:cheers:
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I should have been a bit more clear: what I meant to say is that he should not shoot for pro bbing if he doesn't have the genetics. He could keep his enhancement in a safe realm and still compete on the amateur level. I mean that going pro is what requires the genetics, and we definitely don't have any pros on the board here. But we do have some guys who look great competing at the amateur level.

I personally would like to compete in a few years and I am about as genetically UNgifted as you get. I'm slow twitch all the way. I've run several marathons and done pretty well, but getting anything besides my back to grow is a bitch.
 
Aha.. yes gotcha... you do need to have genetics like Flex, Dexter, Oliva, Gunter, Jay, Zane, Franco.. all those cats are obviously gifted.. Yes I agree with your elaboration.

Good luck with your future competitions bro. If there's a will there's a way. And at least you have one hurdle over.. The back is stubborn as hell for many, including me.

Peace. :D
 
he's on quite a bit of gear. i don't have any reference to compare his use to but my own and what i've seen used, so i can't say it's over the top for a pro to use, but it would definetly seem like overkill.

some of his decisions seem strange too, like in his middle 6 weeks how he injects 100mg winny and ingests 50mg on the same day. why bother? it won't help for site enhancement as it's got an ester attached and must cleave it off in the blood for it to become active. don't understand why he doesn't just make it all an oral solution...
 
If you need that much gear to get a procard, you need to re-evaluate your situation.. Genetics or not, that's just dumb.. He'll **** up, and we'll see him in a video talkin' about how he screwed his body up using so much at once.. :rolleyes:

gear--->:nutkick:<-----his organs
 
bigpetefox said:
If you need that much gear to get a procard, you need to re-evaluate your situation.. Genetics or not, that's just dumb.. He'll **** up, and we'll see him in a video talkin' about how he screwed his body up using so much at once.. :rolleyes:

gear--->:nutkick:<-----his organs
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:clap2: amen Pete, you may do some funky things with boas and leather pants (j/k) but you're a wise guy :thumbsup:
 
2000mg test enanthate wk
700mg test suspension wk
900mg deca wk
50mg dbol ed
75mg anadrol ed
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i would skip the enanthate, you're packed with 700mg of suspension per week IMO lol, also why this fool would stack dbol and drol ???? stupid

700mg test prop wk
600mg eq wk
40mg oral winny ed
35 mg anavar ed
150mg tren ed
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I would definitely skip the winny
 
bigpetefox said:
If you need that much gear to get a procard, you need to re-evaluate your situation.. Genetics or not, that's just dumb.. He'll **** up, and we'll see him in a video talkin' about how he screwed his body up using so much at once.. :rolleyes:

gear--->:nutkick:<-----his organs
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my thoughts exactly. i can kinda see the point of high dosage injectables but to overload your liver that much with orals is nothing short of ignorant. wonder if he gets regular bloodwork, i'd be curious.
 
Maybe he's field testing some synthetic liver that was developed by the military, otherwise I don't see how he could stand that amount of hormones.
 
That cycle is insane. Or many of cycles. I remember seeing a "Pro's" cycle it looked similiar but a little more crazy.
 
The only rumored "pro" cycle that was as bad belonged to Andreas Munzer.. Of course, he's not around to claim we're not hardcore enough to do "what it takes"..
 
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