Dermacrine cycle set up?

mmorso

mmorso

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I've never ran a ph cycle. Im planning on cutting in 8 weeks and wanna have my sh*t in order so I don't get all f*ckd up and loose my balls and grow titties....
Dermacrine is very appealing to me and although I'm reading mixed info on suppression, I'm guessing I still should have a legit SERM on hand prior to running it. So with cutting a priority and ideally still getting some LBM gains, I'm thinking of stacking Dermacrine with Follidrone, Yohimbine, and Tr1umph. What should my pct (if any) look like? I'm open to running the Dermacrine longer than 4 wks if I feel like I'm achieving my goals... Also, as a general ph/AAS question, what should I have on hand if I start getting estro sides...

Thanks
 
mmorso said:
I've never ran a ph cycle. Im planning on cutting in 8 weeks and wanna have my sh*t in order so I don't get all f*ckd up and loose my balls and grow titties....
Dermacrine is very appealing to me and although I'm reading mixed info on suppression, I'm guessing I still should have a legit SERM on hand prior to running it. So with cutting a priority and ideally still getting some LBM gains, I'm thinking of stacking Dermacrine with Follidrone, Yohimbine, and Tr1umph. What should my pct (if any) look like? I'm open to running the Dermacrine longer than 4 wks if I feel like I'm achieving my goals... Also, as a general ph/AAS question, what should I have on hand if I start getting estro sides...

Thanks
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1. Dermacrine generally should not give any estrogen sides and if it does an OTC with Abieta should kill it. Maybe letrone if you need somethin stronger.
2. I dont think dermacrine is in anyway suppressive, it actually makes my sperm quality, amount of sperm, gives me sense of well being, and increased acne, all of which is signs of increased test rather than decreased test. I personally dont think 70mg of simple DHEA can be suppressive as it's the only thing in dermacrine that can supress you.. I feel the company just says to PCT for safe measure, also if you do PCT a SERM is not necessary and will make you feel worse depending on the SERM used (cough cough clomids a b1tch cough cough).
3. Stacking all of those things together is a great stack.
4. I've gotten blood work from pre and post a dermacrine run while only adding DIM, Bulbine, 7,8Benzo, and L-dopa Transdermally and my test was 70 points higher post cycle, LH was increased and FSH stayed practically the same. Estrogen also went down a bit due to the DIM and 7,8Benzo.

So anecdotally for myselff, Dermacrine is an overall feel good supplement that should not cause suppression as the only thing capable is 70mg DHEA and if any suppression is visible i would not be surprised if it's marginal at best.
 
Dermacrine should be pretty mild as far as sides. It also has reversatol in it already in case you're worried about E sides. You would probably be gtg with an OTC PCT. Possibly even Rebirth.

The only other product I would add to your stack is HMB.

You could also stack Yohimbe with BPS Combustion if you wanted to and had the extra cash.
 
lifted67 said:
Dermacrine should be pretty mild as far as sides. It also has reversatol in it already in case you're worried about E sides. You would probably be gtg with an OTC PCT. Possibly even Rebirth.

The only other product I would add to your stack is HMB.

You could also stack Yohimbe with BPS Combustion if you wanted to and had the extra cash.
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Yeah HMB is a staple sup of mine so it'll be in there too
 
The only side to expect from dermacrine is feeling good, and some random erections, just a feel good product that can help assist recovery and help lean out.
 
Good man, I did a pretty drastic cut from January to March and dosed HMB at about 3 grams a day and felt like I didn't lose any muscle.
 
I'm thinking of adding some laxo... Don't know if it's bs or not though... I'm thinking of either OL dermastrength or nano genin. Whatcha think of that?
 
mmorso said:
I'm thinking of adding some laxo... Don't know if it's bs or not though... I'm thinking of either OL dermastrength or nano genin. Whatcha think of that?
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Laxo is amazing for me.. BPS just released a product called androcrine which i will be logging for them, i use Laxo in every pct to retain gains and keep cortisol low, it's only considered bs sometimes because people compare it to a steroid giving it a bad rap when it doesnt deliver steroid like gains. It's an adaptogen and when used correctly can illicit amazing effects.
 
mmorso said:
Yeah HMB is a staple sup of mine so it'll be in there too
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Not my meaning to hijack the thread but what do you guys notice about HMB? I used it a lot back in the days, but one day I just stopped and never went back. Don´t actually know what it did to me except tasting like... well, you know what...

About Dermacrine. I more or less use Dermacrine in a small dose in cycles all year around. Have never seen any suppression issues from that... more the opposite actually, but don´t cut your leg off on that statement please.
 
mmorso said:
Which laxo have you ran in the past?
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All of them... Ive ran DSU (OL's capped version) Ive ran DSTD(OL's transdermal version) Ive ran Most wanted (Oral laxo with cyclodextrin complex) I've ran laxacrine(BPS0 and ive ran the nanogenin one.

The top 2 go to DSTD in 1st and Most wanted in second and then Laxacrine in 3rd. However i feel the new androcrine will be a top laxogenin product due to the new delivery style they implemented for their TD. I've always liked BPS as a whole every product by them i've loved especially adrenosurge helped me with withdrawals from tons of stims. Also sustain alpha makes me feel like i could shag the whole world in a day.
 
mmorso said:
I'm thinking of adding some laxo... Don't know if it's bs or not though... I'm thinking of either OL dermastrength or nano genin. Whatcha think of that?
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BPS is looking for loggers on their new TD Laxo product Andocrine, maybe apply?
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I've used Anafuse but it was a prop epicat+laxo blend so I'm not even sure how much I was getting. I wasn't too impressed with that one though.
 
Dragoninho said:
Not my meaning to hijack the thread but what do you guys notice about HMB? I used it a lot back in the days, but one day I just stopped and never went back. Don´t actually know what it did to me except tasting like... well, you know what...

About Dermacrine. I more or less use Dermacrine in a small dose in cycles all year around. Have never seen any suppression issues from that... more the opposite actually, but don´t cut your leg off on that statement please.
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Agreed here, Dermacrine on multiple occasions has made me feel like my test was BOOSTED however i only have blood work for 1 dermacrine cycle and it did in fact boost my T.
 
Dragoninho said:
Not my meaning to hijack the thread but what do you guys notice about HMB? I used it a lot back in the days, but one day I just stopped and never went back. Don´t actually know what it did to me except tasting like... well, you know what...
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I get the tabs in bulk from amazon. I always felt my strength stayed with me even while in a severe deficit while on it. I went from 185 to 165 in about 2 months and still kept my 405 dead lift 1RM.
 
Dragoninho said:
Not my meaning to hijack the thread but what do you guys notice about HMB? I used it a lot back in the days, but one day I just stopped and never went back. Don´t actually know what it did to me except tasting like... well, you know what...

About Dermacrine. I more or less use Dermacrine in a small dose in cycles all year around. Have never seen any suppression issues from that... more the opposite actually, but don´t cut your leg off on that statement please.
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I used the Muscletech clear muscle, phosphamuscle, plasma muscle stack for 8 weeks and loved it... I just kept running the clear muscle since because I now lift fasted in the am due to my work schedule. For me it simply gives me a little peace of mind that I'm not being counter productive lifting fasted... I've gained a little LBM and have leaned out a little. Scale weight is the same though the mirror tells a different story. Only drawback is the f*ckn price man... Ridiculous!!!
 
mmorso said:
I used the Muscletech clear muscle, phosphamuscle, plasma muscle stack for 8 weeks and loved it... I just kept running the clear muscle since because I now lift fasted in the am due to my work schedule. For me it simply gives me a little peace of mind that I'm not being counter productive lifting fasted... I've gained a little LBM and have leaned out a little. Scale weight is the same though the mirror tells a different story. Only drawback is the f*ckn price man... Ridiculous!!!
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Yeah that's why I go Amazon.com, dat muscletech mark up doe...
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
All of them... Ive ran DSU (OL's capped version) Ive ran DSTD(OL's transdermal version) Ive ran Most wanted (Oral laxo with cyclodextrin complex) I've ran laxacrine(BPS0 and ive ran the nanogenin one.

The top 2 go to DSTD in 1st and Most wanted in second and then Laxacrine in 3rd. However i feel the new androcrine will be a top laxogenin product due to the new delivery style they implemented for their TD. I've always liked BPS as a whole every product by them i've loved especially adrenosurge helped me with withdrawals from tons of stims. Also sustain alpha makes me feel like i could shag the whole world in a day.
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How did you dose the DSTD? 1/2 pump am & 1/2 pre? And how long should it be ran to notice gains in your opinion?
 
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