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Blackstone Labs Elite Fire and Ice Stack / Cycle Help

QuickBlue

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Is this stack being sold from Blackstone complete...

Gear Support
Brutal4ce (4-DHEA)
Chosen1 (1-DHEA)
PCT-V
Eradicate
Growth

I've been trying to find a cycle log/ placement of products, but have been unsuccessful. I've found other threads for 1-AD/ 4-AD, but I want to be sure I'm doing everything right. Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Looking at the stack, I was thinking the following...

Gear Support - 2 capsules twice daily
Chosen1 (1-DHEA) - 1 capsule (65mg) twice daily (1-4 weeks)
Brutal4ce (4-DHEA) - 1 capsule (65mg) twice daily (1-4 weeks)
Growth - 3 capsules before bed

PCT-V -1 capsule twice daily (5-8 weeks)
Clomid - 50mg (5-8 weeks)

Eradicate -1 capsule three times daily (9-12 weeks)

Is the PCT-V a strong enough standalone PCT? In researching, I've read a lot of people did not recommend the PCT-IV.

It's been about five years now, but previously, I completed two cycles of M-drol (Superdrol) and had awesome gains with nasty sides. Along with the above supplements, my goal is to maintain about 3,400 calories a day, 300 grams of protein and ultimately after 12 weeks gain 10-15 pounds.

Thanks for any input or advice...
 
You won't find any logs for these as they have just been released. The 1-Dhea and 4-Dhea logs will be the same for the most part. This is a lower dose but different forms& absorption enhancers. I know you have ran superdrol twice but do you know what a serm is? Just making sure before offering additional advice.

However, your goals are very achievable with 1&4 dhea products given everything else is in check. I don't really buy into the hype of these two particular products just yet (not saying I won't eventually) but I am a strong supporter of 1&4 andro cycles. Nice keepable gains with minimal sides.
 
You won't find any logs for these as they have just been released. The 1-Dhea and 4-Dhea logs will be the same for the most part. This is a lower dose but different forms& absorption enhancers. I know you have ran superdrol twice but do you know what a serm is? Just making sure before offering additional advice.

However, your goals are very achievable with 1&4 dhea products given everything else is in check. I don't really buy into the hype of these two particular products just yet (not saying I won't eventually) but I am a strong supporter of 1&4 andro cycles. Nice keepable gains with minimal sides.

I've heard the term serm used on here a lot. To be honest though, I'm not sure what a SERM is. No dought I'm new and ignorant on a lot in these parts, but looking for someone to show me the ropes. Thanks!
 
It would be a great cycle i think! But if serm is needed i dont think it,,,, But maybe some of the oldschool guys would help out here.
 
I've heard the term serm used on here a lot. To be honest though, I'm not sure what a SERM is. No dought I'm new and ignorant on a lot in these parts, but looking for someone to show me the ropes. Thanks!

When running anything supressive it's always advised to run a serm. Nolva or Clomid. There are board sponsors on here that carry both of them. Nolva is run at 20mg for the first two weeks and 10 the last two weeks. Clomid is 50/50/25/25. I would recommend trying to get one of the these and run it pct. An otc serm is BLR's rebirth but it is usually used if you do a smaller cycle like a low dose osta or something. Then during pct i usually will pick up an otc pct product and test booster as well. hope this helps. If not feel free to shoot me a pm and I can answer any questions.
 
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