Anybody take Gabapentin

[PoSiTiVeFLoW]

"- phenergan (promethazine)
I’m currently on this. It’s a very drowsy anti-histamine that’s non-addictive...
"
Could be a better option if insomnia is the main issue, will look into it.

 

[nstych]

Have had 3 back surgeries.. L4/L5 2x and L3/L4 1x.. all discectomies. Have permanent nerve damage and atrophy in right leg as a result. Prior to getting the surgeries I always waited too long to see if I could resolve the injuries with conservative approaches and was prescribed heavy doses of gabapentin for nerve pain during these periods. Was prescribed all the way to the maximum daily dosage which was 3200mg or 3600mg and it worked unbelievably well. Got an anxiolytic effect and was a little loopy at work but the benefit of reduced pain for exceeded the negative effects. Ask for Lyrica.. felt a lot cleaner and less dosing reqjuired.

 

[Jinsun]

My insomnia seems to be a particularly bad case and so I take two prescriptions for it which are reliable but I want to find a replacement for one of them because of its side-effects (quetiapine) and ramelteon is by far the best candidate.

also neither of them leave you with withdrawal symptoms

I take quetiapine for sleep. 25 to 50mg. 37,5 beeing the sweet spot. But I found it's hard to get off of and the next day my mind is foggy and hard to concenteate. I hate it, but it's one of the most effective sleeping aids I've tried thus far. Be vary though it substantially raises prolactin. I actually had to take tamox bc of it.

 

[u_e_s_i]

I take quetiapine for sleep. 25 to 50mg. 37,5 beeing the sweet spot. But I found it's hard to get off of and the next day my mind is foggy and hard to concenteate. I hate it, but it's one of the most effective sleeping aids I've tried thus far. Be vary though it substantially raises prolactin. I actually had to take tamox bc of it.

ikr I hate it too, I can’t wait to stop taking it. I’ve taken 2 Xanax and 2 Valium before to try to sleep but even that didn’t work and yet quetiapine works every time

oh damn that sucks, I didn’t know its effect on prolactin was that strong.
About the concentration, as it turns out quetiapine actually lowers dopamine (which is why it also lowers testosterone). People with ADD and ADHD typically have relatively low dopamine levels which would explain quetiapine’s effect on your concentration even aside from the grogginess.

To make things worse it may have long term implication for the brain.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pubmed/31220554-quetiapine-induces-myocardial-necroptotic-cell-death-through-bidirectional-regulation-of-cannabinoid-receptors/
Quetiapine’s known to reduce the mass of grey matter but thankfully there’s evidence that suggests that that’s temporary and reversed upon cessation but I’m not sure what to make of the study above.

it also causes patients to put on an average of 1.5 - 5.5kg of fat depending on the dose as it increases appetite and makes you hyperglycaemic. It basically induces temporary metabolic syndrome

Did your doctor warn you about any of this? Mine didn’t say **** and quetiapine has a rare side-effect called aphasia (difficulty with speech) that affects me and he had no idea that it was even a side-effect. I spent months thinking I’d somehow suffered permanent brain damage

if you’re in America you should give the two drugs I mentioned earlier a try. I’m hopeful that the two together will be as effective for insomnia as quetiapine

 

[Jinsun]

oh damn that sucks, I didn’t know its effect on prolactin was that strong.

Yup, most anti psychotics are.
https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20191009/8-billion-award-in-risperdale-lawsuit
My prolactin got 1.5x out of range from just 37,5mg, in 3 weeks time. So my gyno flared up and I started taking tamox and a bit of caber.

oh damn that sucks, I didn’t know its effect on prolactin was that strong.
About the concentration, as it turns out quetiapine actually lowers dopamine (which is why it also lowers testosterone). People with ADD and ADHD typically have relatively low dopamine levels which would explain quetiapine’s effect on your concentration even aside from the grogginess.

Thanks for that! I did know it effects dopamine and yes, I had/have troubles with concentration my whole life. Was never diagnosed with ADD, as here in EU, this got rarely diagnosed or treated. But even so, I don't think I could have ever taken stuff like adderall. Right now I found modafinil at low dosage to be very effective. Also, LSD in mini dosages; 25 - 50mcg does wonders. It also helps a lot with getting off of benzos and sleeping pills. I feel it kinda resets your brain chemistry. You should give it a try. Just don't take it to late in the day as it has a long half life of app 12h.

Oh, and benzos, don't get me started on them.

My doctor is actually a psychiatrist and he call's him self a "neuro-psychiatrist". He really knows his drugs and brain chemistry. He also likes the idea of LSD and Ketamine as antidepressants and what not. But he kinda just threw me the quetiapine without much warning as he knew I was going to take small dosages only. He works at a psych ward and he has lots of patients that are on 200 - 800 mg's of quetiapine so my dosages seem like microdosing to him. But alas they are not and they have a profound mind numbing effect. If I take 37,5mg's at arround 1 - 2 AM, my head kinda starts working the next day at around 18 PM, which is off course a big compromise to take. I wish there was a shorter half life version of it. 8 hours is to much for a sleeping aid. Ramelton, as of now, isn't an option in my country. I've already talked to my dr about it. I said that I would try and find it on the web, but haven't gotten my self to that yet.

You don't have such sides on quetiapine? How much do you take? It sucks your dr. didn't give you any warning, but if he is not a specialist, I am not surprised at all.

 

[u_e_s_i]

Yup, most anti psychotics are.
https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20191009/8-billion-award-in-risperdale-lawsuit
My prolactin got 1.5x out of range from just 37,5mg, in 3 weeks time. So my gyno flared up and I started taking tamox and a bit of caber.

Well damn. As it happens I’ll be having a blood test done in the next few weeks and I’ll make sure they test for prolactin too

Thanks for that! I did know it effects dopamine and yes, I had/have troubles with concentration my whole life. Was never diagnosed with ADD, as here in EU, this got rarely diagnosed or treated. But even so, I don't think I could have ever taken stuff like adderall. Right now I found modafinil at low dosage to be very effective. Also, LSD in mini dosages; 25 - 50mcg does wonders. It also helps a lot with getting off of benzos and sleeping pills. I feel it kinda resets your brain chemistry. You should give it a try. Just don't take it to late in the day as it has a long half life of app 12h.

Hahaha oh man you don’t need to tell about how incredible LSD can be. I used to drop every 2 or 3 days but decided to take a break because smoking weed whilst on quetiapine turned out to be a really bad mix because it just made the mental impediments from the quetiapine so much worse and i wanted to rest my mind for a bit

where dyou live? I live in London and the situation with testing for ADD&ADHD is like that over here. Like unless your parents are rich and you’re struggling in school there’s more than a 90% that your ADD&ADHD will go undiagnosed. I was never tested for it when I was a kid because my parents were still on the come up at the time and schools deemed me scholarship material. There were obvious signs but they just assumed I was being lazy which tbf I was lol. A psychiatrist I saw for a bit a coupla years ago decided to test for it tho and I was diagnosed with ADD. I’m on modafinil now too and it is so helpful. I don’t understand why psychiatrists would prescribe ADD/ADHD patients with Ritalin or adderall in this day and age because they come with a load of cons and no pros over modafinil and vyvanse

Oh, and benzos, don't get me started on them.

My doctor is actually a psychiatrist and he call's him self a "neuro-psychiatrist". He really knows his drugs and brain chemistry. He also likes the idea of LSD and Ketamine as antidepressants and what not. But he kinda just threw me the quetiapine without much warning as he knew I was going to take small dosages only. He works at a psych ward and he has lots of patients that are on 200 - 800 mg's of quetiapine so my dosages seem like microdosing to him. But alas they are not and they have a profound mind numbing effect. If I take 37,5mg's at arround 1 - 2 AM, my head kinda starts working the next day at around 18 PM, which is off course a big compromise to take. I wish there was a shorter half life version of it. 8 hours is to much for a sleeping aid. Ramelton, as of now, isn't an option in my country. I've already talked to my dr about it. I said that I would try and find it on the web, but haven't gotten my self to that yet.

You don't have such sides on quetiapine? How much do you take? It sucks your dr. didn't give you any warning, but if he is not a specialist, I am not surprised at all.

I wish my doctor (psychiatrist) was like that. My current psychiatrist is 80 something years old and is a bit old fashioned. He’s really smart and very qualified tho which is why I’ve stayed on as his patient and these days we pretty much share custody over the pharmaceutical side because tbh over the past few years my analysis and diagnosis have proven to be more effective than his

Oh no I get those sides too. I’ve been slower mentally ever since I started taking quetiapine and I feel groggy and lethargic for most of the day. It used to be 24/7 and a lot worse back when my insomnia was much worse and I needed 200-250 just to sleep. These days I take 25-50 and things are a lot better. Back when I was taking 200-250 I was starting to worry that the brain damage had made me retarded because of how I had trouble talking and how much slower my brain had become.

yeh in England you can’t get ramelteon either which is exactly my problem. It doesn’t make any fkn sense because it should clearly be the go-to drug for insomnia instead of ambien, which is addictive, causes dependency, can be abused and has a whole host of other side effects. Tbh I’m starting to suspect that some greedy ***** at big pharma are involved because refusing to license ramelteon for the UK and EU makes no sense whatsoever from the clinical perspective.

I’ve petitioned the NHS twice now, the first time to give ramelteon a UK license and this time to just let my psychiatrist import some just for me but I have yet to hear back.
I’ve also had a look online and the British firms that used to stock it have run out and won’t be receiving new stock and so far I haven’t had any luck sourcing it from overseas

 

[thebigt]

Have had 3 back surgeries.. L4/L5 2x and L3/L4 1x.. all discectomies. Have permanent nerve damage and atrophy in right leg as a result. Prior to getting the surgeries I always waited too long to see if I could resolve the injuries with conservative approaches and was prescribed heavy doses of gabapentin for nerve pain during these periods. Was prescribed all the way to the maximum daily dosage which was 3200mg or 3600mg and it worked unbelievably well. Got an anxiolytic effect and was a little loopy at work but the benefit of reduced pain for exceeded the negative effects. Ask for Lyrica.. felt a lot cleaner and less dosing reqjuired.

it's amazing how this drug seems to affect people so differently!!!

 

[Jinsun]

Hahaha oh man you don’t need to tell about how incredible LSD can be. I used to drop every 2 or 3 days but decided to take a break because smoking weed whilst on quetiapine turned out to be a really bad mix because it just made the mental impediments from the quetiapine so much worse and i wanted to rest my mind for a bit

Yeah, I found that weed with quetiapine sucks big time. Your in a foggy state as is but the weed just exacerbates it. Lsd however helps a lot. But lsd is quite a burden, even at small dosages of 25 - 50 it's a mental exercise for a few hours. How much did you usually take? I'm working up to a proper trip slowly. Just waiting for the perfect day for it ... And damn, I sure don't envy you the high dosages of quetiapine. 250 is a lot! I would literary turn in to a waking zombie, how did you manage it? The problem with going off of it is I personally don't really fall asleep. I just stay half awake.

 

[SkRaw85]

It was probably a mixture of gaba, plus sleeping pills, and one more pill. I was soooooo messed up the first night; like I was high and drugged up. Then I kept chasing that high every day afterwards cuz it made me sleep for 10-16 hours a day. The worst part was that it kept me drowsy all day, and I was operating heavy machineries back then. Every time I think about it, it scares me.

10-16 hours sleep?!

 

[u_e_s_i]

Yeah, I found that weed with quetiapine sucks big time. Your in a foggy state as is but the weed just exacerbates it. Lsd however helps a lot. But lsd is quite a burden, even at small dosages of 25 - 50 it's a mental exercise for a few hours. How much did you usually take?

I usually take 200. Some people tell me that’s quite a heavy dose and but I think my brain’s adapted and handles LSD better now. Like the first few times i took it the visuals were crazier but now when I trip on 200 I’m in total control and it just augments things

I'm working up to a proper trip slowly. Just waiting for the perfect day for it ...

yeh that’s definitely a good idea. Nice sunny summer days tend to be the best time to take LSD ime and I’ve heard a lot of other people say that too

And damn, I sure don't envy you the high dosages of quetiapine. 250 is a lot! I would literary turn in to a waking zombie, how did you manage it? The problem with going off of it is I personally don't really fall asleep. I just stay half awake.

honestly? It was hell. Like I said the way it affected me made me seriously worried that I’d suffered permanent brain damage and the truth is that the changes that leads to in how people react to you can be harrowing. When you’re a zombie who’s reactions are slow and you struggle with stringing sentences together trying to engage with people is just really depressing frankly and the fallout is even more depressing. And when that goes on for days and then weeks which turn into months it eats away at you.
Never, ever, take 200mg of quetiapine lol

which country are you in? I ask because I really want to find a way to get ramelteon and we might just be able to help each out

 

[Jinsun]

I usually take 200. Some people tell me that’s quite a heavy dose and but I think my brain’s adapted and handles LSD better now. Like the first few times i took it the visuals were crazier but now when I trip on 200 I’m in total control and it just augments things

200 is a good trip dose. You can't just take that all the time. e3d you can take a mini dose 10 - 50, but taking 200 all the time, I don't think that's healthy. Otherwise tripping is a skill imo, as you pointed out.

I'm weaning my self off of quetiapine now. Today was the first day that I actually slept. I'd say 4 out of 10 quality, but I take it as a success.

 

[mixedup]

Mmm I take alot of seroquel and was never told about sides accept it can raise prolactin

 

[saderboy80]

200 is a good trip dose. You can't just take that all the time. e3d you can take a mini dose 10 - 50, but taking 200 all the time, I don't think that's healthy. Otherwise tripping is a skill imo, as you pointed out.

I'm weaning my self off of quetiapine now. Today was the first day that I actually slept. I'd say 4 out of 10 quality, but I take it as a success.

I’m prescribed 1,000mg of seroquel with no side effects thus far.

 

[u_e_s_i]

200 is a good trip dose. You can't just take that all the time. e3d you can take a mini dose 10 - 50, but taking 200 all the time, I don't think that's healthy. Otherwise tripping is a skill imo, as you pointed out.

I'm weaning my self off of quetiapine now. Today was the first day that I actually slept. I'd say 4 out of 10 quality, but I take it as a success.

Maybe. It’ll be good to see some extensive studies done. I didn’t notice any bad sides from it

that’s good to hear dude. These last six months I’ve been falling asleep on the couch every once in a while without having taken any quetiapine which is a sign that my insomnia been improving and on days when I’m tired 12.5 will often do but I’d still like to have something without any bad sides on hand for when I need something and in case things worsen. At this point I’ve just had enough of spending days on end without being able to sleep. That **** was torturous

 

[Jinsun]

I’m prescribed 1,000mg of seroquel with no side effects thus far.

You are taking 1g of quetiapine? I think you probably misinterpreted something. That's a doze that would turn you in to a living zombie. Even patients in the psych ward dont get that much.

 

[u_e_s_i]

Mmm I take alot of seroquel and was never told about sides accept it can raise prolactin

most docs don’t know about the other side effects. Also in some country like the UK side effects with less than a 5% frequency don’t need to be included under side-effects on the manual or on websites and so side-effects like tardive dyskinesia and aphasia are left out. I only found out that aphasia, something that I was suffering from, was actually a known side-effect of quetiapine until an American doctor I met on reddit who knew about it sent me a link to an American site that included it. My doctor had no idea about it, or at least so he claims

 

[u_e_s_i]

I’m prescribed 1,000mg of seroquel with no side effects thus far.

for what? Like Jinsun said that’s a massive dose and if I remember right the recommended upper limit for people with severe psychiatric issues is 800mg

 

[saderboy80]

You are taking 1g of quetiapine? I think you probably misinterpreted something. That's a doze that would turn you in to a living zombie. Even patients in the psych ward dont get that much.

No misinterpretation here.

Max dose is 1,200mg from what I have read. I take it at bed for insomnia.

By no means do I recommend that dose. Always speak to your physician/psychiatrist etc..

 

[saderboy80]

for what? Like Jinsun said that’s a massive dose and if I remember right the recommended upper limit for people with severe psychiatric issues is 800mg

I have very severe insomnia.

 

[u_e_s_i]

No misinterpretation here.

Max dose is 1,200mg from what I have read. I take it at bed for insomnia.

By no means do I recommend that dose. Always speak to your physician/psychiatrist etc..

how bad’s your insomnia?

essentially quetiapine causes the grey matter in your brain to shrink temporarily (it goes back to normal upon cessation), indices temporary metabolic syndrome, can cause tardive dyskinesia (google it), elevates prolactin and causes weight gain (5.5kg over 6 months on average at 200mg ED) amongst over things and the magnitude and likelihood of these sides scale with dosage. So, if I were you I’d try to taper down and figure out what the lowest reliable dose you can take is and make that your base dosage

 

[Jinsun]

I have very severe insomnia.

Yeah me to, and I am not touching aas until I get it under control. I would advise you to not mess with your hormones if you have such big problems with sleeping.

 

[saderboy80]

how bad’s your insomnia?

essentially quetiapine causes the grey matter in your brain to shrink temporarily (it goes back to normal upon cessation), can cause tardive dyskinesia (google it), elevates prolactin and causes weight gain (5.5kg over 6 months on average at 200mg ED) amongst over things and the magnitude and likelihood of these sides scale with dosage. So, if I were you I’d try to taper down and figure out what the lowest reliable dose you can take is and make that your base dosage

Without heavy medication I don’t sleep at all. I cycle through 8 medications not taking the same thing 2 nights in a row.

Without medication the longest I’ve gone was 7 days and 6 nights. With no naps or anything.

 

[saderboy80]

Yeah me to, and I am not touching aas until I get it under control. I would advise you to not mess with your hormones if you have such big problems with sleeping.

Mine is the best it’s been in the past 7 years. I average 3-4hrs a night and am happy with that. I’ve gone through several physicians, neurologists, psychiatrists, sleep specialists, and therapists. Even with multiple overnight sleep studies they haven’t been able to figure out how I function with continued minimal sleep

 

[thegodfather]

I was prescribed this as a sleep aid. It works great for that and knocks me out. The problem is it has a long half life and the carry over effect the next day puts me in a blah mood. I didn't like it so I stopped.

 

[Renew1]

Without heavy medication I don’t sleep at all. I cycle through 8 medications not taking the same thing 2 nights in a row.

Without medication the longest I’ve gone was 7 days and 6 nights. With no naps or anything.

Hey-Heyy!!
... Then you've heard and seen the "special guests"! LOL.

Most people that think they have total insomnia, don't really, it just seems like it to them.

Those of us "lucky" enough to have actually experienced it know that after 2 days you start hearing things that aren't there, and after 3 days you start seeing things that aren't there (give or take a day either way).

Micro-naps of just a few seconds (that we may not even realize we get) can actually be enough to hold those off a lot of times.

.... It is certainly an interesting experience, but I don't recommend it.

 

[saderboy80]

Yeah me to, and I am not touching aas until I get it under control. I would advise you to not mess with your hormones if you have such big problems with sleeping.

Do not rest (pun intended) until you have found a good psychiatrist or neurologist with a specialty in sleep. One that can meet your needs and is not afraid to try alternative medication combinations.


I l b only average 3-4hrs and

 

[saderboy80]

Hey-Heyy!!
... Then you've heard and seen the "special guests! LOL.

Most people that think they have total insomnia, don't really, it just seems like it to them.

Those of us "lucky" enough to have actually experienced it know that after 2 days you start hearing things that aren't there, and after 3 days you start seeing things that aren't there (give or take a day either way).

Micro-naps of just a few seconds (that we may not even realize we get) can actually be enough to hold those off a lot of times.

.... It is certainly an interesting experience, but I don't recommend it.

Had to get a chair for the shower, as I was dysfunctional.

GI symptoms vomiting, diarrhea, GERD



Real insomnia is going to bed at 9pm, falling asleep at 12am, wake up once around 3am and you are awake, you are awake for the day.

I only sleep when under heavy sedation, they even have trouble with sedating me for surgery with ketamine and propofol.

You do t know insomnia until you are so tired you get exhausted from brushing your teeth.

 

[Renew1]

Had to get a chair for the shower, as I was dysfunctional.

GI symptoms vomiting, diarrhea, GERD



Real insomnia is going to bed at 9pm, falling asleep at 12am, wake up once around 3am and you are awake, you are awake for the day.

I only sleep when under heavy sedation, they even have trouble with sedating me for surgery with ketamine and propofol.

You do t know insomnia until you are so tired you get exhausted from brushing your teeth.

Hope they get it worked out, bro.

 

[Jinsun]

Hey-Heyy!!
... Then you've heard and seen the "special guests"! LOL.

Most people that think they have total insomnia, don't really, it just seems like it to them.

Those of us "lucky" enough to have actually experienced it know that after 2 days you start hearing things that aren't there, and after 3 days you start seeing things that aren't there (give or take a day either way).

Micro-naps of just a few seconds (that we may not even realize we get) can actually be enough to hold those off a lot of times.

.... It is certainly an interesting experience, but I don't recommend it.

You experienced that?

 

[Renew1]

You experienced that?

Yep.
.... A number of years ago.

Like I said, most of us don't, because we normally don't experience TOTAL insomnia.

But I have to say ... Insomnia sucks, Total or not.

 

[Jinsun]

Yep.
.... A number of years ago.

Like I said, most of us don't, because we normally don't experience TOTAL insomnia.

But I have to say ... Insomnia sucks, Total or not.

Damn, that must have been a nightmare (lol). Yup it does and the more it happens the more you start do decline in to apathy and delression. You just can't help it.

 

[Renew1]

Damn, that must have been a nightmare (lol). Yup it does and the more it happens the more you start do decline in to apathy and delression. You just can't help it.

Yep.

I realize that there are physical aspects of it, and those I couldn't always control.

But (for me at least) there are mental aspects as well.
And one of the most helpful things I ever did for myself was to just honestly acknowledge that "it is what it is", and my worrying and stressing over whether or not, and how much sleep I get, only makes the situation worse.

It didn't fix everything, but it helped me a lot.

 

[Srr1000]

Trazodone at 150mg knocks me out. I was once prescribed serquil for sleep. Doc didn’t tell me moon face and a huge gain in weight was a common side effect.

 

[saderboy80]

Hope they get it worked out, bro.

Thanks man I mean for now I’m doing really well on 3-4hrs a night

 

[u_e_s_i]

Without heavy medication I don’t sleep at all. I cycle through 8 medications not taking the same thing 2 nights in a row.

Without medication the longest I’ve gone was 7 days and 6 nights. With no naps or anything.

fkn hell im sorry to hear that. I used to go 3 days and 3 nights at a time without being able to sleep but at some point around 72 hours mark I‘d usually finally fall asleep. I wasn’t even taking any stims except pre-workout which happened 2-4 days a week

do you take any stims, AAS or PHs and if so how much and how often?

you could give the two things below a try. It’s unlikely they’ll be able to get you to sleep by themselves but I’m almost certain you can stack them with quetiapine (phenergan you definitely can and I’ve been doing it for 2 years now and I’m trying to get some ramelteon) which could help you cut your dosage of quetiapine. I don’t know if you’ve looked up tardive dyskinesia yet but that potential side effect freaks me out and there’s no known cure for it so if you get it it’ll wreck your life for good. I mean brain shrinkage, weight gain, temporary metabolic syndrome, constant drowsiness and aphasia are all really bad side effects but tardive’s on another level

- phenergan (promethazine)
I’m currently on this. It’s a very drowsy anti-histamine that’s non-addictive, doesn’t induce dependency and doesn’t have any particularly bad side-effects. If i take 10-25mg before bed i wake up pretty fresh. I’m a lil groggy for an hour or two but feel good after that. Doesn’t have any long-term side-effects.

- ramelteon (rozerem)
something I’ve been trying to get that mimics melatonin. It’s non-addictive, doesn’t induce dependency and has far fewer and less severe side-effects than every other sleeping Med other than promethazine.
My insomnia seems to be a particularly bad case and so I take two prescriptions for it which are reliable but I want to find a replacement for one of them because of its side-effects (quetiapine) and ramelteon is by far the best candidate.

also neither of them leave you with withdrawal symptoms

 

[u_e_s_i]

Those of us "lucky" enough to have actually experienced it know that after 2 days you start hearing things that aren't there, and after 3 days you start seeing things that aren't there (give or take a day either way).

Micro-naps of just a few seconds (that we may not even realize we get) can actually be enough to hold those off a lot of times.

I think the range is broader than that. During these last few months I went 80+ hours without sleep a few times and have never had any audio or visual hallucinations stemming from a lack of sleep

 

[Renew1]

I think the range is broader than that. During these last few months I went 80+ hours without sleep a few times and have never had any audio or visual hallucinations stemming from a lack of sleep

Like I said, most of the time people don't even realize they are getting "mini-naps" of even just a few seconds, which can sometimes be enough to stave off these hallucinations.

This is not just my experience. When I started experiencing these things I researched this heavily.

What I stated is not my opinion.
It is stated as fact in scientific papers

 

[u_e_s_i]

Trazodone at 150mg knocks me out. I was once prescribed serquil for sleep. Doc didn’t tell me moon face and a huge gain in weight was a common side effect.

it’s funny how often doctors skip over bad side effects. I wouldn’t be surprised if big pharma’s paying doctors off to prescribe some of these things. If they were on continuing to bribe doctors to keep prescribing fkn OxyContin and fentanyl even after thousands had died from overdoses I’m sure they’d be absolutely fine with bribing doctors and lobbying governments to boost their profits from non-lethal drugs

 

[u_e_s_i]

Like I said, most of the time people don't even realize they are getting "mini-naps" of even just a few seconds, which can sometimes be enough to stave off these hallucinations.

This is not just my experience. When I started experiencing these things I researched this heavily.

What I stated is not my opinion.
It is stated as fact in scientific papers

fair enough