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Anabolic memes

Thank God for bring retired and that I am only doing one of these things (200g protein).
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MrKleen73 said:
This has so much truth to it for many people, including myself.
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The muscle shock myth is such a bastardization of the stimulus of novelty.

Doing more work (progressive overload) has always worked. And when you can’t do more total work, THEN novelty is required.
 
Hyde said:
The muscle shock myth is such a bastardization of the stimulus of novelty.
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I used to use the term "CrossFit induced A.D.D." a lot since the whole methodology required doing something different every day. I think the double edged sword was that it kept people coming for the novelty, but that they never become masters in anything.
 
Hyde said:
The muscle shock myth is such a bastardization of the stimulus of novelty.

Doing more work (progressive overload) has always worked. And when you can’t do more total work, THEN novelty is required.
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Very well said….many people have been misled by that.
 
Hyde said:
The muscle shock myth is such a bastardization of the stimulus of novelty.

Doing more work (progressive overload) has always worked. And when you can’t do more total work, THEN novelty is required.
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Yeah, I never really changed workouts intentionally to shock muscles. I just had ADHD and any shiny new program that looked like it would work was done. However, the meat and potatoes of what I did most often did not change. Hard work in the 6-12 rep range for the most part.

Now, I do understand why you do seem to suddenly make progress when things get changed up a lot, like levels of volume, or intesity after a long period of doing it differently, but it has nothing to do with chaos, and everything to do with taxing different systems that have not been getting stimulated during the recent stuff. However, progressive overload always has to be the main driver.

I tend to keep the same effective lifts around as long as i can until they start to break or stall. Well I did, now training is a little different.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Now, I do understand why you do seem to suddenly make progress when things get changed up a lot, like levels of volume, or intesity after a long period of doing it differently, but it has nothing to do with chaos, and everything to do with taxing different systems that have not been getting stimulated during the recent stuff. However, progressive overload always has to be the main driver.
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for sure. if I'm doing massive volume, hypertrophy work, and conditioning on a cut, all the sudden doing triples or even 5s on a PL schedule is a bit easier and if I'm doing a ton of PL, then all the sudden the high volume stuff feels temporarily easier cause the weight is so much lighter (how I do it at least). but usually its like "I'm fat enough, time to cut" or "now I'm too small, time to train PL" lol.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah, I never really changed workouts intentionally to shock muscles. I just had ADHD and any shiny new program that looked like it would work was done. However, the meat and potatoes of what I did most often did not change. Hard work in the 6-12 rep range for the most part.

Now, I do understand why you do seem to suddenly make progress when things get changed up a lot, like levels of volume, or intesity after a long period of doing it differently, but it has nothing to do with chaos, and everything to do with taxing different systems that have not been getting stimulated during the recent stuff. However, progressive overload always has to be the main driver.

I tend to keep the same effective lifts around as long as i can until they start to break or stall. Well I did, now training is a little different.
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That’s what it is - shiny object syndrome. We’ve all experienced it, but man “shock the muscles” was just the worst justification for it that sent so many the wrong way!
 
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