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Am I ready for a cycle?- Drug Testing

embulldogs99

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Hey guys, i'm new to these forums and iv'e got a few questions. I play D-1 football (im a preferred walk-on) and i am just too small to play. everyone has 20+lbs on me especially at the LB position that I play. Its the summer, so we probably wont get drug tested until late August.
I was thinking about taking a cycle this summer but I don't know if I am ready yet.

im 18yrs old (19 in 2 months) 6'1'' 195lbs.
I've been lifting for 1.5+ years seriously and about 4+ years in total
I'm not at my natural potential yet obviously
I just finished my freshman year so I only have 3 years left of college to make my mark

I guess heres my questions- should i get on cycle? I really need to gain 20-25 lbs to be able to play and im worried its going to take many years before I can do it naturally. If i do cycle, will i fail my drug test?

My friend said i should take test prop and pct with nolva/clomid. he also said if i wanted i could stack test p with anavar. both ways I would be looking at an 8 week cycle. Should my pct be 3 or 4 weeks?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
No you are not ready and would be a fool to start taking steroids at your age and now I will highlight my reasoning.
1) You are too young
2) You have no idea what you are doing
3) Your endocrine system is not ready
4) Putting on muscle is as easy as eating and lifting
5) Weight isnt important speed and strength is
6) It is immoral to take performance enhancing drugs to compete in sports.


Moral of the story eat and lift then eat more also sleep.
 
Gerbil said:
No you are not ready and would be a fool to start taking steroids at your age and now I will highlight my reasoning.
1) You are too young
2) You have no idea what you are doing
3) Your endocrine system is not ready
4) Putting on muscle is as easy as eating and lifting
5) Weight isnt important speed and strength is
6) It is immoral to take performance enhancing drugs to compete in sports.


Moral of the story eat and lift then eat more also sleep.
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fair enough. i appreciate the input.
 
embulldogs99 said:
Hey guys, i'm new to these forums and iv'e got a few questions. I play D-1 football (im a preferred walk-on) and i am just too small to play. everyone has 20+lbs on me especially at the LB position that I play. Its the summer, so we probably wont get drug tested until late August.
I was thinking about taking a cycle this summer but I don't know if I am ready yet.

im 18yrs old (19 in 2 months) 6'1'' 195lbs.
I've been lifting for 1.5+ years seriously and about 4+ years in total
I'm not at my natural potential yet obviously
I just finished my freshman year so I only have 3 years left of college to make my mark

I guess heres my questions- should i get on cycle? I really need to gain 20-25 lbs to be able to play and im worried its going to take many years before I can do it naturally. If i do cycle, will i fail my drug test?

My friend said i should take test prop and pct with nolva/clomid. he also said if i wanted i could stack test p with anavar. both ways I would be looking at an 8 week cycle. Should my pct be 3 or 4 weeks?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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:redeemerwhore:
You doing a cycle is like giving a baby a rocket launcher.
 
Congrats on d1! But hold your horses you have plenty of time. By the time your 21 you would be able to pack on loads of muscle. You'll be ey okay just lift and EAT! Get yor eating in order and you will surly blow up! Food is the old steroids! So stick to eating!
 
Well technically hallucinogens and opium were the old steroids, but other then that you are right.

thyrod said:
Congrats on d1! But hold your horses you have plenty of time. By the time your 21 you would be able to pack on loads of muscle. You'll be ey okay just lift and EAT! Get yor eating in order and you will surly blow up! Food is the old steroids! So stick to eating!
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i appreciate the help guys. im just gunna stay away from AAS. do you guys think i could handle a PH? another friend suggested steelcrushers
 
embulldogs99 said:
i appreciate the help guys. im just gunna stay away from AAS. do you guys think i could handle a PH? another friend suggested steelcrushers
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No. Steelcrushers and other phs are steroids, just not illegal yet. Just do it legit bro. Eat like a fugging horse. I put in 35 lbs of lbm naturally at your age. I ate and trained like a monster.
 
superbeast668 said:
No. Steelcrushers and other phs are steroids, just not illegal yet. Just do it legit bro. Eat like a fugging horse. I put in 35 lbs of lbm naturally at your age. I ate and trained like a monster.
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is this even possible? maybe 35 lbs over a few years. i didnt think you could put on that much LBM quickly, naturally
 
embulldogs99 said:
is this even possible? maybe 35 lbs over a few years. i didnt think you could put on that much LBM quickly, naturally
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Eh. Maybe a few lbs was "soft" but i was rock solid. Stomach actually flattened out. Never got tested for bf% but it was all pretty damn lean.
 
I put on 30lbs of mass in 4 weeks with sd/pp/hd/4-diol, not sure how lean it was though :lmao:

Lost half of it in pct and got a nice small lump under my nipple, newbs...
 
Creatine, DAA, BCAAs, Protein, Glutamine, throw in a solid preworkout and you would be shocked by the results. Cheaper and alot safer then gear and that should be more then enough at your age.

embulldogs99 said:
In a year I agree. But the season starts in 4 months. thats why i am just trying to get a kick start. but im probably just too young for aas yet
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Gerbil said:
Creatine, DAA, BCAAs, Protein, Glutamine, throw in a solid preworkout and you would be shocked by the results. Cheaper and alot safer then gear and that should be more then enough at your age.
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i take creatine daily already. i dont know what DAA is. BCAA's are useless unless im working out on a fast, which I am usually not. Protein I agree is important, I get at least 200g of protein a day. Glutamine? im pretty sure thats a useless supplement.

But your right, my results have been great. Ive gain weight and have gotten much stronger. Its just ive gain 15 lbs in a year. At this rate I wont even have a shot on the field until senior, maybe junior, year if im lucky. I just wish there was something else I could do.
 
Gerbil said:
Creatine, DAA, BCAAs, Protein, Glutamine, throw in a solid preworkout and you would be shocked by the results. Cheaper and alot safer then gear and that should be more then enough at your age.
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Do you not think all of these supps are performance enhancers of some sort? I don't mean to sound like a Dick. And I understand they aren't even close to true AAS, but the still enhance performance in one way or the other. Other than this I agree with your posts 100% man.
 
lilarny said:
Do you not think all of these supps are performance enhancers of some sort? I don't mean to sound like a Dick. And I understand they aren't even close to true AAS, but the still enhance performance in one way or the other. Other than this I agree with your posts 100% man.
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may be performance enhancers- but they arent banned by the NCAA
 
But the NCAA does a crappy job of listing what you can take anyway man. Hell, caffeine is restricted to certain levels. Stimulants, including DMAA are on there as well. I'm really suprised more people don't get suspended for banned substances every year.
 
embulldogs99 said:
may be performance enhancers- but they arent banned by the NCAA
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I was speaking on the morality quote from earlier. I understand they aren't banned, but is that to say that injectable test wasn't banned people would be ok with it? I personally wouldn't care, but a lot would. Just don't see the immoral act of a banned performance enhancer vs a non banned one
 
lilarny said:
But the NCAA does a crappy job of listing what you can take anyway man. Hell, caffeine is restricted to certain levels. Stimulants, including DMAA are on there as well. I'm really suprised more people don't get suspended for banned substances every year.
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they actually do a decent job. there are a few tricky ones like DMAA but overall its pretty clear lol. caffeine is restricted at a level that would be extremely dangerous for any human to take. its like 900mg within a 5 hour span or something.

the reason why mroe people dont get caught is because the NCAA doesnt test all the time, and when they do they just test random people on the team. A LOT of athletes take roids and stuff, they are just clean quickly and when the test does come around they are clean. ive played for a year and havent been tested by the NCAA once. ive been tested by my school 3 times. thats why you dont hear about suspension all the time.
 
lilarny said:
I was speaking on the morality quote from earlier. I understand they aren't banned, but is that to say that injectable test wasn't banned people would be ok with it? I personally wouldn't care, but a lot would. Just don't see the immoral act of a banned performance enhancer vs a non banned one
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i think what makes it immoral is getting an advantage over other people (or in my case catching up to other people). so only banned substance abuse could be immoral but if everyone can use it then why not?
 
I hear ya, but that's like comparing water to gatoraid. If one team drinks water, and the other gatoraid, one has a clear advantage.
 
Arnold started doing Steroids when he was like 15...
You have a shot to make it to the NFL? Honestly? If so for me it's a no brainer how else are you gonna compete with the cats that are doing it. 8 Weeks is nothing
 
Op, you have been lifting seriously for about 1.5 years? Well man keep it up cause what progress you have made so far will be 10x the next year and a half. In my life atleast 18-20 was prime for growing lean mass, its all about diet. If you do decide to run something in the next year or so just make sure you put in as much research as you can.
 
Dvaldez5 said:
Arnold started doing Steroids when he was like 15...
You have a shot to make it to the NFL? Honestly? If so for me it's a no brainer how else are you gonna compete with the cats that are doing it. 8 Weeks is nothing
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I know people who used roids about that age, one of them it completely ruined his high school life, the other got into other drugs I don't know what happened to him. My point for every 1 that gets lucky and doesn't have problems, there are prob 10 that is phocks up their life for an extended period of time. I know what you are saying tho from what i saw where I went to school roids were pretty much widely used
 
SPS said:
I know people who used roids about that age, one of them it completely ruined his high school life, the other got into other drugs I don't know what happened to him.
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Well Arnold became a goernor, so what's up?


:p Kidding. OP, good advice in this thread. You don't need drugs yet. I was just watching a video of Dave Tate speaking about steroids, and he actually made a good comparison to football. He said that essentially anabolics are your "ace" card that you can use once. If you gotta use that ace card to play high school football, you probably won't be playing college. If you need to use that ace card to play college, you probably won't be playing in the NFL. If you need to use that ace card to get into the NFL, then you'll likely have about 3-5 years in the NFL before burning out. If you have to use that ace card after being in the NFL for a few years (this would essentially be someone with genetics basically made for playing football), then you'll likely be able to play for 5-7 years more, which is a good 20-30 million extra bucks. If you end up NEEDING to use anabolics to play your D1 college, going anywhere past that may end being very difficult for you.
 
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