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morfiend

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I've been doing Mdien w/ mild results. I ramped up the dose to 10mgs and started t3 around week three, it seems to have staved off some muscle wasting but I think i've lost muscle as well.

I have some tren, test prop, and test enanth coming in soon.. I was thinking of either running tren by itself or w/ some test.

Anyways I guess my question is should I do PCT for Mdien or should I just go straight into my new cycle w/ tren + test? (I ordered a shitload of hCG to go along with it, I'll probably be running it the last 4 weeks).

I've been on the mdien for close to a month now and my nips seem to be getting a little sore.. There seems to be more fat around the area than usual which is kinda scary but I don't feel any hard "knots" or "bumps".. This is pseudo-gyno right???

Thanks in advance
 
Just do the whole PCT, stay off for about 2 months, read up on steroids even more (you are never done learning, trust me), and get a solid cycle with goals etc all planned out while letting your body recover.

ManBeast
 
ManBeast said:
(you are never done learning, trust me)
ManBeast

Absolutely. So important to structure a solid cycle before starting one. Btw, dont run the tren by itself.... never
Sage
 
Well, the cycle would be 8 weeks.

Tren 100mg MWF 1-8 (if i can't stand it i'll stop sooner)
Test Prop 150 mg MWF 1-4
Test Enanth 500mg M 1-8
hCG 500iu MF 7-11

Clomid 12-16

Was thinking of running prop for the last three weeks while the enanth clears.. saw that in another thread.

was also thinking of running letro/dex if i bloat, i hate bloat.

hows this look. i think MWF would be more convenient than EOD injects for me, will that be a huge problem?


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btw, this will be a cutter.. would like to see some LBM gains while losing BF but my goal is to just lose BF while maintaining LBM.
 
bro, the stack looks fine but you're killing your recovery by ending the enanthate and prop on the same week... and then waiting 4 weeks til PCT??? You're idea of extending the prop from the tail end of your cycle, and two weeks past the last enanthate shot will fix it. Follow the prop with a more structured PCT. Five weeks of clomid.... no. Be nice to add in some nolvadex as well. Many articles throughout this board for laying out a post cycle therapy. You're almost there... just need to fix things up a tad.
Sage
 
thanks..

I'll never be using nolva again. It gives me the most unbearable abdominal pains. It's happened twice while using it so I'm almost 100% it's the novla. It could just be lion's nolva, I haven't tried another brand. It was my understanding that clomid and nolva are equal in their abilities to bring up LH, beyond that it's just personal preference.


Thanks a lot
 
I thought I saw on here somewhere that Nolva is better than clomid for briningup LH, I'll try and find it. Plus is doesn't carry the moody side effects and the other risks like problems with eye sight. But if it rips up your stomach I guess you don't really have choice
 
Both would be ideal. Nolva during cycle to keep estro down and clomid after.

Clomid:

50mg week 1
100mg week 2
50mg week 3
 
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