8 weeks or longer

mixedup

mixedup

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Hello All. I see alot of people on here advocating longer cycles but i don't see people upping their dose. I've seen several articles where your body will stall aftet 8 weeks due to myostatin and you either need to up the compounds to keep gaining. So how many of guys run long cycles. I used do long cycles too but I'd always hit a point where I wasn't making gains does this happen to you guys
 
Depends on if youre pinning or not, running orals, what compound, the dosage, and how much experience you have and etc...Lots of different variables.

First time, depending on compound 4 - 6 weeks is ideal.

If you have experience and you wanna do 8 - 12 weeks, some sarms like lgd 4033, osta, cardarine, mk677 are g2g. Epistane.
 
RANS0M said:
Depends on if youre pinning or not, running orals, what compound, the dosage, and how much experience you have and etc...Lots of different variables.

First time, depending on compound 4 - 6 weeks is ideal.

If you have experience and you wanna do 8 - 12 weeks, some sarms like lgd 4033, osta, cardarine, mk677 are g2g. Epistane.
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So your saying your gains on sarms keep going all 12 weeks. I dont use sarms so im not familiar thanks for the input
 
mixedup said:
So your saying your gains on sarms keep going all 12 weeks. I dont use sarms so im not familiar thanks for the input
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Here's the deal with sarms from my own personal experience and reading other logs, sarms are user dependant to a degree. You know what you'll get with lgd 4033 with 6-8 weeks. Roughly 10 pounds of muscle, 8-12 weeks, 12 pounds isn't rare, 15 is possible, you have to adjust the dosage accordingly, find out what a good starting dosage is and take it from there. Taper up, if you get sides or more of, taper down. Simple.

Osta is mild. It is suppressive to a degree also depends on the dosage, how long you run it and etc...There's a log on here someplace where someone ran osta and gw for 16 weeks. He was suppressed from osta but nothing alarming. Other people get complete shutdown after 4 weeks at 20mgs a day.

I used osta in pct at 10 mgs and recovered just fine with clomid protocol, test booster etc...

You have to figure out what works for you with these sarms. It def ranges from person to person and if you actually get the sarm you purchased.
 
You will build after 8 weeks.. With tren strangely I feel that week 3-5 are quite good than 6-9 it kinda slows down and the last 9-12 I feel like my shoulders blow up extremely., I have no idea whats going on haha.. I think 12 to 13 weeks is gold
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the problem is that people aren’t training and/or eating well enough. Lots of people stop gaining from this, they add in the gear to start gaining again, and they will, but those gains can easily stall if the training and diet aren’t there. You need to diet and train well in the first place, then add in your gear to speed things up or break plateaus. But if you can keep gains coming while natural, there’s no reason they necessarily have to stall just because you’ve been on gear for a certain length of time. Yes, I’m sure everyone will get diminished returns from a cycle over time, but gains don’t have to come to a complete halt, yet they so often do.
 
You have to increase calories as you grow if you want to continue progressing. I think that's why people "stall". Even natty as long as you eat and lift you will grow. Anabolics even moreso.
 
I think it’s as individual as when some compounds kick in. As well as not adjusting calories as you gain every 5lbs or so. But, I think, once you reach a point of less return, it’s either time to pct, cruise, or if labs allow, switch compounds. Some shorter estered drugs do almost nothing for me after 10 weeks. But longer can go 16 weeks or more. So many variables, but luckily, most of us don’t have to worry about that too much, since by that point, we need to get our labs back in range anyways, liver, lipids etc..
 
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