Answered 4 andro vs Epi andro for test base

Megashark

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Which of the two would be a better test base?(for a cycle with dry bulkers)

I am guessing 4 andro(@ 330 mg Ed) would be better seeing as it converts into testosterone itself, as opposed to DHT like Epi.
Also, 4 andro is supposed to provide some potential wet gains on its own.
Any feedback? Thanks
 
What else you running? Imo I find epi to be stronger than 4AD. I really like the lean hard dry look epi gives you if you dose it good. 4 andro will build more mass. You just gain weight on it pretty much no matter what.

Aggression, libido, strength = epi
Good libido, more mass gains = 4AD
 
Aggression, libido, strength = epi
Good libido, more mass gains = 4AD + 1AD

I'd recommend adding in 1 Andro if you go with running 4 andro.
 
Thanks guys. I posted a thread about my cycle last week here, but am too lazy to find the link.

So my cycle WAS
DMZ 48 mg Ed
Epi 400 mg ed
1 Andro 220 mg Ed

After 3 weeks I realized my DMZ was most likely fake so instead I ordered the over the top, insane (and probably a little too insane)KING stack by Medfitrx RX.
I took the 1 Andro out of the cycle and kept the epi as a test base. Today is day 6 with KING. My 4 andro should be here today as well, but I am almost out of epi so.. should I get more?
This is a purely dirty bulking cycle btw. I am running Arm1care pro for cycle support and am running Nolva 20/20/10/10 for PCT. Will probably order some good OTC PCT supps to go with the Nolva. I would have them on hand but I have the SERM already so I'm not worried about it.
 
1 andro and 4 andro should be minimum 300mg a day each. I always choose 4 andro over epi for a few reasons
 
1 andro and 4 andro should be minimum 300mg a day each. I always choose 4 andro over epi for a few reasons
 
I’ve done it both ways...tho I ran the epi @ 750-1000+ or the 4 andro staring at 440+.

Frankly, I’ve enjoyed it both ways. That said...andros take time to kick in your system. You’ve already got epi moving. I’d stick it out and con’t.
 
1 andro and 4 andro should be minimum 300mg a day each. I always choose 4 andro over epi for a few reasons

Agreed on this. Hard rock supplement's andro the giant is my go to for 4 andro products and well dosed at 330mg per day.
 
I was taking 1 testosterone by hi tech which is 220 mg with liposomal delivery. Yes it's a low daily dose but you get a lot more past that first run through your liver. I quit the 1 Andro though, I don't really think another andro would benefit me. I mean, I am taking a stack with five potent prohormones. Plus two test bases.(About to be one when my epi runs out)

I am gonna finish the epi and I started the 4 yesterday.
Holy **** do I feel a difference in my mood and energy levels.

I work 10 hours a day framing and normally by the end of the day, I want to drop dead. THEN I hit the gym with my little remaining energy. But today just flew by.
4 andro thumbs up
 
This to me is one of the best stacks for overall mass. I’ve run a few times.

Agreed. I know a lot of people have ran the super mandro and andro the giant stack with great results!
 
Is 3 pills each daily enough if stacking Andro the giant and Super mandro ? Or would you dose higher ? I’m taking Rad-140 and the first week my libido was crazy and this 2nd week its shot.

Yes, three pills each would be 330 mg of each. That is an acceptable dose even without the liposomal delivery.
From what I have read, 330 mg with liposomal delivery is (guesstimated) about a gram without.
Of course, I am not a chemist or a professional, so I am just going off what I have read on various websites.
 
Is 3 pills each daily enough if stacking Andro the giant and Super mandro ? Or would you dose higher ? I’m taking Rad-140 and the first week my libido was crazy and this 2nd week its shot.

Yep I think it's enough. If desired I believe it could be bumped up to 440mg but 330 is typically strong enough.
 
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