2nd ph cycle advice

Kdizz

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Hey everybody I am 22 years old and looking to run my 2nd ph cycle but dont know which route to go. I took my first cycle about 2 or so years ago and ran the original halotest package with nolvadex for a serm. I honestly didnt get much from it. My main goal now is to get shredded(below 10%) and put on some alittle size in the process. I have been lifting for about 5 years now. I want something that is easy on the hairline and sides overall. Ive been looking at ams lean stack 8 week cycle. My diet is in check and im about 10-11%. Im looking to get around 7%. Is 8 weeks a long time for this cycle? Anybody have a more effective stack to recommend? Thank you
 
You're still plenty young to be taking ph/ds. I'd stay away from methyls for now. What is your current height and weight? If going the ph route I might suggest 6 weeks on Androvar. Sides wouldn't be too bad but you might shed if prone to hair loss. You could also consider trying Exotherm. It is an AI with mild anabolic properties. More than anything it would shred you up. Check it out:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/270695-exotherm-faq.html
Hit me up if you have any questions.
 
Make sure you do a lot of research. In my opinion at 22 I wouldn't put harmful PH's in my body. I would probably wait and just stick with some natural anabolics right now. Something like follidrone, anafuse, xgels, abe etc.
 
LeanEngineer said:
Make sure you do a lot of research. In my opinion at 22 I wouldn't put harmful PH's in my body. I would probably wait and just stick with some natural anabolics right now. Something like follidrone, anafuse, xgels, abe etc.
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Are these "natural" anabolics even worth the usage?
 
Kdizz said:
Are these "natural" anabolics even worth the usage?
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Natural anabolics are great, non hormonal but still plenty of gains to be made. Look at epic unleashed, it is a natural anabolic with increased absorption. Guys have been making ph quality gains without the side effects or need for pct. There is a logging opportunity for epic unleashed in the company promotion forum, you should put in an app!
 
yates84 said:
Natural anabolics are great, non hormonal but still plenty of gains to be made. Look at epic unleashed, it is a natural anabolic with increased absorption. Guys have been making ph quality gains without the side effects or need for pct. There is a logging opportunity for epic unleashed in the company promotion forum, you should put in an app!
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Hmm thanks for the info! Very interested in this product..but question how effective this product will be on a deficit ? Is this a product i should be waiting to buy once i am back in a surplus? Or will i benefit on this while cutting enough to be worth the cash. Thanks
 
Kdizz said:
Hmm thanks for the info! Very interested in this product..but question how effective this product will be on a deficit ? Is this a product i should be waiting to buy once i am back in a surplus? Or will i benefit on this while cutting enough to be worth the cash. Thanks
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I'm in a caloric deficit right now and epic unleashed has allowed me to keep all my strength. Usually my strength and gym motivation goes away when I cut calories but not this time! I think it is worth every penny if you are cutting or bulking
 
yates84 said:
I'm in a caloric deficit right now and epic unleashed has allowed me to keep all my strength. Usually my strength and gym motivation goes away when I cut calories but not this time! I think it is worth every penny if you are cutting or bulking
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Is it safe to stack the pills and td together?like 2 pills preworkout then 1 pump before bed? Would you recommend me stacking this product with any other products to help me even more with my gains? Also can ep1c unleashed be ran straight for however long i want? Say 8 week+? Or is there a limit. Thanks.
 
Kdizz said:
Is it safe to stack the pills and td together?like 2 pills preworkout then 1 pump before bed? Would you recommend me stacking this product with any other products to help me even more with my gains? Also can ep1c unleashed be ran straight for however long i want? Say 8 week+? Or is there a limit. Thanks.
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No limit, use it as long as you want. I am stacking both right now, pills in the am before my workouts and td at night after my shower. The caps hit quick and are great pwo and the td absorbs slow to keep your blood levels up. This is the best way to use epic imo
 
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