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1test cyp and 19nor cyp @1fast400

They also have 1-test cyp. WTF? I didn't notice the nor or 1-test cyp yesterday, did they just add it? Will the cyp ester help with the pain associated with 1-test?
 
I know most of you have read the 4ad cyp thread at bb.com. What makes you believe the 1 test or 19 nor would be any more effective?
 
scotty2 said:
I know most of you have read the 4ad cyp thread at bb.com. What makes you believe the 1 test or 19 nor would be any more effective?
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So does that mean the 4AD cyp was all hype?
 
Basically the few people who tried injecting the 4-ad cyp got very little gains, less than one would expect from a 4-ad transdermal. I think they even quit their cycles because it was so ineffective.
 
Some thought maybe the ester effects the conversion of the 4-ad. Apperantly 4-ad isn't anabolic on it's own without converting as some have thought.
 
1Fast400 said:
1-Test has 7x the activity, 4AD has to convert big difference
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actually even though it has not been proven it could be argued that 4-ad is in of itself a active hormone and has intristic properties before conversion but what do i know:D
 
not bad so far anyone can pm me for details.. i was a bit under a gram and i am getting results nothing great so far but i was cutting and doing great now im switchin to bulkin and keeping the protein content very high and slimming down and gaining some muscle i will keep you guys posted..

btw i am going to up the dose just in cae.. sorry not the most scientific way to go about it but i will definately be able to tell you guys what the deal is in a month or so.. i will update but im not gonna give a final nod one way or the other just yet...
 
Some guy on BB said its best if you frontload with regular 4ad the first and second week. That sounds pretty right on to me, considering with the cypionate ester it might sit around for awhile and take some time to make a full conversion.

My theory would be to inject a half and half of 4ad cyp and regular 4ad to maintain blood levels, and give you a short term test boost. It seems like from feedback, that with the ester attatched it makes a big difference as far as conversion goes, if it converts at all.

But, I don't think anyone really knows for sure and the only way to test it would be for someone to go get their blood levels checked.

So, how about some 1,4andro cypionate Mike?
 
BTW, we are working with an excellent vendor to supply sterile oil based preps of the cyp powders (FOR LYMPHATIC DELIVERY).

Most likely they will be offered at 250 mg/mL in a 20 mL multi-use vial.

For those that would like to experiment the added convenience of a ready made vial will be excellent.

Chemo
 
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