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  1. Help with Havoc

    ok ok, how would one go about a serm? where are these obtained? dosage? thanks again for all the help, and for the people that have nothing to say other than not trying to completely ball you out (ok, maybe I am), but people like you are the reason our precious supplements are being ripped...

  2. Help with Havoc

    last thing, I am finishing up 1-andro rx from ironmag labs in a week or so. For my pct i am just using creatine and protein, multi vitamin, and fish oil, along with cycle support from annabolic innovations. I didnt get anything out of 1 andro rx from ironmag labs. I think it may be a fraud...

  3. Help with Havoc

    anabolic pump? anyone ever used that, its herbal. which i would think usually means crap

  4. Help with Havoc

    ok so what does your cardio look like. I warm up with a mile run 7-8 minutes. Hit the weights for about an hour or more. Cool down by running a slow mile (10) minutes. then i go home. I lift Monday Wednesday Friday and Saturday, Obviously Different Muscle groups. Tuesday and thursdays I...

  5. Help with Havoc

    Body Fat is not the issue and no one is going to run 10 miles a day. I played baseball in college and am a pretty healthy 220. I am looking to get the lean look. I have big arms and a big chest, I just dont have the definition. I want the definition. what do I have to do to get the definition...

  6. Help with Havoc

    I guess thats exactly what I am using this forum for, to get informed and get knowledge of what the hell I am doing. I have never used pro-hormones before or any other supplement besides maybe some N-O explode and protein and creatine. I want to get the big gains and get cut. I eat a healthy...

  7. Help with Havoc

    nolva and clomid are not legal, it is a crime to order nolva or clomid. i work for a government agency and can not and will not order nolva or clomid. There has to be a safe way to PCT without using Nolva or Clomid. Havoc's Toxicity is mild compared to alot of other things that I would never...

  8. Help with Havoc

    Had a few q's regarding primaforce havoc. my stats - Height 5"10 weight 220 muscular with a little bodyfat i want to lose 25 years old I am about to start a cycle. doing annabolic innovations cycle support while using havoc. also going to keep taking my multivitamin, fish oil, and tons of...
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