So I am looking at running my second stack. Goal is to maintain muscle mass and potentially gain strength while losing fat (I hate the term "cutting").
I was looking at running HDrol with Faruza-A or 11-oxo. Decided I didn't want the joint issues of Faruz and that 11-oxo doesn't seem to do much...
Doing some more reading and wondering is 11-OXO even worth considering. Not much on it from a results/review perspective and what there is seems mixed.
Thoughts?
First was Testraflex, a dienelone PH. Great strength gains on it and fat loss, but ran PCT with same PCT plus liquid clomid and somehow lost 10lbs of lean mass. That sucked, but gaining most back in last 10 weeks.
Also, you jumped in as I was editing, but also looking at taking Clen.
So I'm prepping for a cutting cycle and want to stack two of these. All three seems either like overkill or potentially too strong for what is simply my second cycle.
I see lots of folks asking about H-Drol/Furuza but haven't seen much mention (recently) of either with 11-OXO.
Specific items...
So if I don't care about gaining mass, but am more concerned with gaining strength while dropping some fat, Methyl XT will be better than Alpha One, according to the theory being floated. If I want wetter gains, Alpha One is the way to go. Correct?
Is it possible to still find M1A?
I completed a cycle of Testraflex (Dienelone PH) in early Dec and wand to start an Anavar/M1A cycle in mid Feb, but was unframilliar w/ M1A until recently. After reading about it I am very interested.
What were/are some of the names I could find it under (if I...
can you point me in a direction to learn more about dienolone? I've worn out google and the search function here, read damned near everything I've found, and still don't have that much good info.
I'm gonna bump this old ass thread again, and with apologies. But truth be told, finding any good info on dienolone online is difficult at best.
I am just wrapping up 8 weeks on Testraflex which contains the same dienolone precursor. My results thus far (measured two weeks ago) are 13.9lbs fat...
Ya know, and after reading a ton more since posting this, I have realized that all these alleged 'Tren' products like Testraflex and Finiginx and etc are actually dienolone PH, not tren.
Unfortunately the amount of good info I can find on dienolone is very small. My assumption is the above PCT...
Thanks for the phenomenal advice. Now just to find all the stuff.
So I'm guessing you mean take the PCS 4x per day first week, 4x per day second week, 3/day 3rd week, 2/day 4th week, 1/day 5th week?
And on Clomid, 150mg/day 1st week, etc?
Thanks for the help. No sides, thankfully. Thankfully!
A few questions:
- it looks like there isn't a whole lot of difference between CEL PCT Assist and AI PCS; can you help me out in terms of if there is any meaningful difference between them in terms of the ingredients they do not share?
-...
Thanks for the heads up.
I didn't have pct in place for two reasons:
1) lack of awareness that Testraflex was a heavy a prohormone as it is and that PCT was needed (aka ignorance)
2) once I figred that out, I started reading a lot and figured I have time to put in place prior to cycle ending...
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