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  1. Top 3's of 2017

    Bpi isn’t anywhere near cellucor.

  2. The New Product Release Thread

    Owners should never put their image on a package.

  3. The New Product Release Thread

    I should probably start formulating again. Need to look back through here and see what has been coming out. I've checked out from sport supplements since April. Love this thread, a lot of good info.

  4. Don't but ANY supplements unless you can be guaranteed they are not sourced in China!

    Everything in this industry comes from China/India for the most part. No way around it. For those that have concerns about "quality" in that regard, how do you know the brands you buy from are quality? Given most brands can't even afford a legit QC person, have no true QC/QA team, but people...

  5. Scivation Quake 10.0 Log

    The data is showing that getting to 28/84g is where the results are. If you do 1g at 28 days vs 4g at 7 days, you're looking at similar results. There are studies at 1g and 2g coming. There was one done at 12, which didn't show results that different from running 4g. For most, no reason to...

  6. The New Product Release Thread

    Most companies are dumb, that's why they do dumb things. It's a follow the leader mentality. Protein will go up around $1/lb over the course of the year, around .25 a quarter. Pricing has been low, vs the past few years, so a lot of people jumped in. Unless you have a guaranteed buyer, no...

  7. Starting a Sup company what to expect?

    I just cringe when people think staring a company, in any industry, is easy. There are a lot of broke people who own supplement companies.

  8. Nutrabolt buys Scivation???

    Hey guys, sorry I didn't respond here earlier. Travel schedule has been insane. Leaving for China Tuesday for supplier audits. It has been a crazy 4 months, that's for sure. Lots of people have approached me over the years to invest in the company, but I stayed away from all of that. To my...

  9. Starting a Sup company what to expect?

    I might try to do this.

  10. Keto Diet | Best for Longevity?

    To help adjust, grab some BHB salts, mixed blend. Will make adaption a lot easier. Also good for mid afternoon pick ups during keto. Also good to have the excess minerals as your salt requirement goes up considerably on keto

  11. In the Mail ....

    Some of the ones mentioned I have finished, just don't have scheduled releases. They won't be in June. The flavor I showed in the rowing pic hasn't been guessed. I'm traveling heavily the next month, in AU now and china a week after I get back, so I won't be able to check in too often. Just...

  12. In the Mail ....

    Yeah nobody is close on that flavor I showed. I'm trying to rush it to production, but rushed for us is slow (damn QC/QA). June release.

  13. Scivation's Quake 10.0 New Preworkout Promo

    Had teacrine in it at one point. Problem, taste and prop 65. A lot of the flavor "blockers" being used are high in metal content. When you have a pre with this many ingredients, you start getting close to prop 65 issues. One of the reasons you don't see Nitrosigene in the product, we also...

  14. CEO of Bodybuilding.com Steps Down

    They have their issues, but they're still a 400m dollar company.

  15. Supplement Companies to Avoid

    Invalid Link Removed This is why QC matters. When manufactures know testing isn't being done, the incentive to grow their margins can become strong. Something like this happens for 1 of 2 reasons. It was cost cutting on the manufacture side to boost margin and knew they wouldn't get caught...

  16. The New Product Release Thread

    Just a note, every bar taste great when it's fresh. That's why new flavors are debut'd at shows so they'll actually taste good

  17. The New Product Release Thread

    What happens when bro's formulate. Good grief.

  18. Supplement Companies to Avoid

    Keep in my mind, top line max revenue for most supplement companies is around 500m and it takes a mega **** ton to do that. Most cap at 300 and few go over 100.

  19. Supplement Companies to Avoid

    That would run you around 2x revenue, that's not a bad amount. You have insane outliers like Vega who went for big money, but that was because the costco deal was signed during negotiations. Clorox backed away from deal near the end, other side didn't know that.

  20. Supplement Companies to Avoid

    Remember, 2-20 is under 5m in ebitda which means the risk factor in most spaces is high. Put that into this space, higher risk. Look at my example of USP labs. Went from a huge company to a fraction of that in 90 days. Like I said, you don't see your scenario happening and there is a reason...
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