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  1. Forever Young

    Cenegenics blood work after 2 1/2 months

    Dr. John - I can query my doc about the E2 levels, and ask him to document his claim that E2 is not a problem, and that the testosterone levels are fine. I think he would have to produce some docs for this, to back up his claim. But, if I query him about why SHBG was not taken, if it is...
  2. Forever Young

    Cenegenics blood work after 2 1/2 months

    Dr. John - My blood work was taken on Thursday. After blood work on Thurs, I start 500 IU HCG, then 500 on Friday. I inject Testosterone on Sat - and take Arimidex on Sat. What is lowest acceptable E2? What are effects of having E2 too low? Any documents you would recommend on this? How...
  3. Forever Young

    Cenegenics blood work after 2 1/2 months

    I'm enclosing my latest blood work. I was rather surprised that this was all the testing they did this time. My understanding was that the $500 or so charges for this last test would include all of the initial tests I had done. I'm currently taking: .9 IU of HGH per day Thyroid Armour 1/2...
  4. Forever Young

    Injuries and HGH

    I started HGH almost a month ago at 6.3 IU per week. One of the reasons was a 5 month tendon or muscle injury where I could not curl at all and was having trouble playing the piano and doing normal day to day things like closing my car trunk. My primary care phsyician said HGH could cause...
  5. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    Dr. John - didn't mean to make it sound like an 'ad' for Cenegenics. I'm glad you are considering an 'important studies' section. Without the research, without the knowledge, I can't intelligently evaluate Ceneginic's advise, or your advice. In the short time I've been viewing this forum...
  6. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    Dr. John - I understand that you don't have the time to research papers for me. But, when you come across papers & research that is interesting, it would be very handy to have a single 'sticky' thread for research papers. My goal is to attain as complete of an understanding of how all the...
  7. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    Dr. John - my doctor has been thru their program - but I pay Cenegenics, not him. I presumed there would be a set of procedures to follow, and that he would be following precise guidelines. My understanding from the doctor was that it would be exactly the same program as if I went to Las...
  8. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    Dr. John - could you point me towards some reading regarding the how to properly use SHGB tests. I was completely in the dark on that and am concerned that Cenegenics does not have this as part of their standard tests. Somewhat concerned at the moment - I've only got this body, and no spare...
  9. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    hardasnails1973 - as I did not get tested for SHBG with my Cenegenics testing, what are your thoughts on this test and how I could use it. My next tests are 6 weeks away, and I'd want to add anything that is missing. I wouldn't have a baseline unless Quest kept some blood from my first draw.
  10. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    colkurtz_spf - I read your 'cenegenics experience' post. Very curious what kind of effects you noticed and how soon. I've put on 4.5 lb in 4 days (just got back from gym). Muscles swelling up, but I am regaining previous body size. A kind of euphoria kicked in after 3 days. As your IGF was...
  11. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    I don't know that it is to be aromatized. When I asked the doctor whether the testosterone could be aromitized (from my reading in books such as 'Life Extension Revolution' where adding testosterone could end up with patient worse than where he started), he said he was prescribing the arimidex.
  12. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    hardasnails1973 - here are the other tests: DHEA SULFATE 394 shbg - was not part of Cenegenics testing profile Cenegenics started me on arimidex immediately. My understanding is to prevent the testosterone I'm injecting from being aromatized. My next blood work is 7 weeks after starting my...
  13. Forever Young

    Dr. John - latest research on HCG protocol?

    Dr. John - I'm a 51 year old male, 6.1% body fat, 5' 10" 139. I just started Cenegenics program 4 days ago. My labs from Quest were: IGF-I 197 IGF BINDING PROTEIN-3 5.3 TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 543 TESTOSTERONE, FREE 88.0 DHT 15 T-3, FREE 322 T4, FREE 1.76 TSH 1.27 CORTISOL, TOTAL 23.1 (recent...
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