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  1. Freepressright's dance with AndroHard (former Primordial Performance member)

    On my lunch break from work so I might as well do an update now. Last night I really noticed the tightening and drying effect of this compound in full force. I was training a client and we were stretching the inner thigh. It felt like I was trying to stretch a stiff leather belt. Ordinarily my...
  2. Freepressright's dance with AndroHard (former Primordial Performance member)

    UPDATED THREAD WITH LINK REMOVED. APOLOGIES TO MODS Wow, it feels like it’s been forever since I last launched a thread or participated on the board. Life’s been a busy one, and it feels great to be back. Thanks to the generosity of MuscleGelz (as arranged by Wesley Inman), I am proud to...
  3. Freepress' dance with AndroHard (former Primordial Performance member)

    mod edit: read the rules.
  4. THE Tropinol XP Triumphant Stack: Free bottle of Intimidate Offer

    You aren't kidding, Vaughn. I jumped on it, and cash is really tight for me right now. I was pleased with Intimidate. I hope the new Tropinol formula lives up to the hype. I'm a couple weeks into PCT right now, so it'll be coming at the right time.
  5. DECA ZICK on DECA SARM

    Cool, that answered my question very precisely. Much appreciated!
  6. DECA ZICK on DECA SARM

    Royd, that statement confuses the hell out of me (no offense, LOL). I thought the goal of 19norDHEA in a "Deca" precursor was that it would convert to 19norTestosterone. 19nors lack androgenic potency and therefore cause issues with erection and libido and elevated prolactin. If DecaSARM...
  7. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Tell that to the FDA :)
  8. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I agree, but only partially. I'm not putting Eric down or attacking him, but his marketing was way beyond any other company's marketing in brutal honesty, truth and comparison to illegal anabolic steroids. He not only said "comparable to" x, y, or z, but he provided calculations of exactly how...
  9. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Because Primordial, love them though I do, was hot dogging it. Eric's bold and blunt marketing claims attracted a lot of attention. I don't wish to disparage him, but he has been making medically-oriented claims or claims that straddle the borderline of supplements/drugs for a long time. It was...
  10. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I never heard of the Havoc stories, but methylepistanolol is still being sold like crazy. I do remember reading a thread once once BBing.com years ago where some idiot kid took it long term and did not do a PCT and was badly shut down and required going to an endo for therapy. I do not doubt...
  11. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Why take massive doses of often-toxic pro-steroids when you can get the real thing and it's cleaner, purer and works? Legality is the only reason I can think of. I've had some time to read a lot of Rick Collins' writings on steroids and stories about the government's push to make the Schedule...
  12. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Hey Vaughn, good to see you again. Hope my log over at PP sold you lots of Intimidate :) Didn't SD have the attention of the feds once before? And I seem to recall CEL getting sued by a couple of people claiming hepatic damage. There were quite a few cases out there. I'm just shocked beyond...
  13. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    It's what happens when you give $hit tons of power to executive-level bureaucracies. There's a lot of unchecked power at the FDA.
  14. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Patrick, you've been around this game longer than anyone. How is it that SD survived all these years only garnering enough attention for a steadfast ban until recently? "Tren" was banned back in January 2010 long before SD and Halodrol still remains on the market. What the hell drives the...
  15. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I used TRS on numerous occasions, sometimes in conjunction with a SERM and sometimes without. I used TRS for a 1-T transdermal cycle and recovered fine. Ran it again successfully with no SERM after doing 1-T LV and AndroHard and was fine. I also did an Epi/Dermacrine cycle and recovered with...
  16. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I don't ever recall any PP rep claiming you didn't need a PCT for Tren and SD. I'm calling BS on you. No company has been more above board and explanatory about the need for PCT than PP. And their products, while expensive, did work. There are countless logs with photographs and an army of...
  17. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    Thanks, Patrick. Customer service replied to me this afternoon and gave me the answers I needed.
  18. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I realize this is off topic, but no one else here has been overly concerned with that so I'm going to ask, and given the fact that Patrick Arnold was following this thread... Has anyone else had any trouble getting their order from Prototype Nutrition? I ordered some E-spray last week and the...
  19. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I think it's a fairly safe bet that PP's aggressive, to the point marketing of these products as "androgens" and "steroids" is what attracted the attention of the feds. It is commendable that they were honest and above board about everything in their products and presented research-based...
  20. Primordial Performance raided by FDA

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. I figured that Eric had a good attorney on prepay and ready to spring into action. Maybe he did, hell, and this thing is just too big to fight. Either way, it sucks and leaves us all to question the future of this industry.
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