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  1. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Awesome! Good to hear you enjoyed it. Remember you have to work out that muscle group twice a week. If you are not use to working the same muscle group twice a week then the first three weeks are the hardest to get through.

  2. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Update: First day of week 4. Back/Shoulders hypertrophy day Nothing worth mentioning. Pump was good. Lecithin was hard to get down. Will be experimenting with other methods of delivery.

  3. Best Natural Stack and Supps

    Tons of info your looking for are on the first page of the supplement forum. I would just start browsing. A lot of good info on this forum. anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/271404-best-non-prohormone.html ARA (x-gels) EPI (follidrone, ep1c) PA (soy lecithin) Anacyclus (anabeta) Laxogenin...

  4. Bulking Stack

    anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/271404-best-non-prohormone.html Alot of great info on that thread. Epicatechin Arachidonic Acid Phosphatidic Acid Laxogenin Are probably gonna be your best bet for bulking. imo

  5. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Yeah I agree. Looking at running it like this. Epic weeks1-16 SL 4-12 Anabeta 4-12 Derma 8-16 Yeah I'm currently using simply shredded phat program. I'm pretty much sticking with what they have planned beside the exception of more sets. When they give options for a workout, this or that, I...

  6. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Awesome, thanks for that. Im already running folli so ill make the switch over to ep1c without a break. Hows this look? ep1c- Weeks 1-16 SL- Weeks 4-12 Anabeta- Weeks 4-12 Derma- Weeks 8-16

  7. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Pm'd. Would love to give it a run.

  8. It has been decided!! Next run.

    I might be looking into staggering the stack now. So I can gauge the efficiency of each one since I haven't ran SL, or derma before. I am really enjoying Phat currently. I had to add in a few sets to each exercise because I feel like a wasn't getting a good workout with only 2 sets.

  9. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Thats what intrigued me to give it a try. Looking forward to running it and seeing how it compares! Ive had good results with the original anabeta in the past so i thought I might through it in there to give the new formula a try.

  10. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Would anyone recommend me staggering these out to 12 or even 16 week run? If so any recommendation on how I should do so? Or should I jump in and do all for 8 weeks to see the best results? I know none of these shut you down so I shouldn't have any problems with that, right? Thinking ep1c-...

  11. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Thanks! Can't run ara due to inflammation issues. Wish I could though.

  12. Ultimate Black Lion Research Natty Stack

    Yeah i think im gonna bump it down to 1 in the AM only. Tonight I took one and my heart was racing and headache followed. I'm almost through the bottle by now though.

  13. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Ah just to try another brand. Ep1c is highly talked about so I'd thought I'd give it a run.

  14. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Yeah I could try staggering supplements to see which ones really produce results. I've tried anabeta before and had great results. Never tries SL or derma. So that might be a good idea.

  15. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Sick! Why not the derma? Have you tried the phat program yet?

  16. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Well I've been on follidrone (same as epic) for the past 4 weeks. Other then that yeah I'll be starting the others at the same time.

  17. It has been decided!! Next run.

    Alright, decided on next natty run. Running for 8 weeks. Goals are strength and mass. Current weight 164-166. Ep1c unleashed - 2 PWO DermaStrength - 1 pump AM+PM Anabeta - 2 caps AM+PM with meal. PA (SL) - 2-3 tbs AM/ 2 tbs PWO. Staples: Serious mass, Green mag, fish oils, vit D, multi...

  18. Ultimate Black Lion Research Natty Stack

    I'm 25. I thought anything above 120/80 was pre?

  19. Ultimate Black Lion Research Natty Stack

    My blood pressure was a little high today a few hours after my viron and Prolactrone dose. 127/82. Can any of these supps cause high bp?

  20. Opinions would be appreciated. So many options!

    Ended up ordering Ep1c Unleashed Dermastrength Anabeta Soy lecithin Gonna run for 8 weeks! Cant wait! Thanks for the help guys!
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