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  1. Formestane

    But would you mind telling me some benefits of running it Post pct

  2. Who has ran Epistane (havoc) at 50mg?

    I'm gonna run it at 40mg for 5-6 weeks and see how it goes

  3. Phantom Labs Phreak 1st Cycle

    Very good info here

  4. Formestane

    It can cause hpta recovery Supression but not at reasonable doses. There is a conversion rate but I read it converts into 4hydroxytestosterone at ridiculous doses. So if some one runs it during pct at the dosing protocol I posted earlier, would that be a good product to throw into pct

  5. Epistane vs. Anavar

    Yeah its not as toxic as superdrol or anadrol. But alot of ppl over react with liver toxicity. Var isn't super liver toxic but it does fcuk with the lipids more than people think. Look up some lipid values after a var cycle, it's alot harsher than some think

  6. How closely have you ran another PH cycle after ending one?

    I ran hdrol 4 weeks after pct was finished from mdrol and everythig well

  7. Recomp cycle questions

    ^^ agreed

  8. Dbol Test E Cycle

    I would still get clomid and run it at 100/50/50/50 because it brings back hpta function faster. But if you can't get an AI then nolva will be fine to combat gyno on cycle. Make sure calories are about 1200-1500 above maintenance. And 15-20lbs is realistic after pct is done.

  9. Dbol Test E Cycle

    Definitely have one on hand. You may not need it, but being this is your first cycle and dbol and test aromatize into estrogen you may respond badand bloat up or get gyno. So just in case

  10. Formestane

    Not sure what dose he's talking about but this is what I'm running post pct Day 1-10: 150mg (75 morning, 75 night) Day 11-20: 100mg (50 morning, 50 night) Day 21-30: 50mg all at night

  11. Phantom Labs Phreak 1st Cycle

    Phorce is lmg and dimethazine I'm pretty sure. But sdrol will over power the haladrol most likely but alot of ppl seem to like the combo.

  12. Formestane

    I understand that's the reason not to use it in pct but what are some benefits of using it post pct?

  13. Formestane

    Yeah i guess your right lol. But couldyou explain why it's best used post pct?

  14. Formestane

    I read it has potential to convert into 4hydroxytestosterone and could supress hpta recovery. But I heard the best time to run it is right after pct is completed.

  15. Dbol Test E Cycle

    Nolva should be at 40/40/20/20 and I would definitely throw clomid in your pct. And have an AI on hand (aromasin, arimidex etc.) you could even stretch the dbol another week or bump up the dose to 40mg

  16. Formestane

    So are you saying formestane wot help during pct or in my case 1 wk after pct for gyno?

  17. Epistane vs. Anavar

    Yeah when I first posted the thread I pretty much knew var was gonna be the winner. But I just wanted to see how epistane would compare in the gains/price ratio

  18. Phantom Labs Phreak 1st Cycle

    4 weeks of hdrol IMO is pointless. 4 weeks of SD is definitely worth it. But if you're willing to go over your "4 week" rule than i would run haladrol for 6 wks. I wish it would have been my first cycle but mine was 3 wks of mdrol and had good gains so I can't complain.

  19. Epistane vs. Anavar

    Yeah 50 is usually the starting point for var. I'll probably run Epi at 40 for 5-6 weeks

  20. Epi or hdrol or stacked...

    The highest I would run haladrol at is 100mg. Should be good gains
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