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  1. 4-dhea undeconate as “actual” TRT alternative?

    It's a 2 step conversion as opposed to the 1 step conversion of 4-AD.

  2. Woman Doc Put Me on Kyzatrex

    I would imagine rubbing it on your stomach and then throwing a shirt on would manage it pretty easily. I suppose if you're a nudist it would be more challenging though.

  3. 4-dhea undeconate as “actual” TRT alternative?

    Yeah... I guess it might. Not sure what someone would have against rubbing cream on themselves. But they even have prescription oral test now. So I assume this would just be a worse version of that? I guess if it's too expensive or insurance doesn't cover it or something? I don't know...

  4. 4-dhea undeconate as “actual” TRT alternative?

    We can probably thank Hi-Tech for this :rolleyes: I mean, technically, it could seem possible to use 4-DHEA as a form of TRT. But I'm unsure why someone would when there are so many better options out there? You can technically fry an egg on the sidewalk in Phoenix on a hot day, but wouldn't...

  5. Woman Doc Put Me on Kyzatrex

    I'm not familiar with Kyzatrex. I don't think I even know a single person who has been prescribed it. I know people prescribed gel, pellets, hcg, test, etc., with very satisfying results. But I don't think I know a single person who has ever even tried oral test for TRT. Why is this a...

  6. Can I bring liquid Nolvadex on airplane?

    This thread is almost 5 years old. OP is no longer even with us anymore as he is doing 15 years in Sing Sing for trying to bring a SERM on a plane.

  7. Deca or EQ

    Really?? Maybe I'm using it wrong. Where exactly he is injecting it? :unsure:

  8. Looking for an old prohormone I used to use

    Technically you can't get either of those in the USA as they are both banned. Instead of 4-AD, you can get 4-DHEA, which is a 2 step conversion instead of 1. As far as M1T, that is also illegal. 1-DHEA would be a 2 step conversion compared to 1-AD, but still nowhere near as strong as M1T...

  9. Selling 2 bottles of Gear Cream (One partially used, Other brand new)

    Yeah I had the same issue with IF and moving it to feet helped. For some reason it seemed it was the chest and shoulders region that was the only area where my skin got irritated. I've tried several other areas with no issues at all.

  10. Mandro the Giant Stack from Strong

    There are plenty of good TDs out there from IML, Alpha Gainz, Iconic Formulations, etc., but if you like Mandro, you can stick with it. Like I said, I don't think 1-DHEA is very liver toxic, if at all, so you can probably stick with it. I guess my only concern would be lipids? Because...

  11. Mandro the Giant Stack from Strong

    12 weeks is kind of long for an oral cycle. I might have went with a TD version if I ran it that long but I assume 1-DHEA has little to no impact on the liver since it's not methylated. So I guess you could go 12 weeks. Although I don't know what your markers would be by 12 weeks either.

  12. Trenavar, how bad for endurance?

    I think he was referring to M1A being methylated vs DHB. You're right, I don't believe dienedione was methylated but it was, in my opinion, stronger than dienolone. Maybe it was active on its own like Smont said, maybe it was spiked, maybe I just respond differently to it... but in my...

  13. Trenavar, how bad for endurance?

    Even though it's the PH to dienolone, I would swear X-Tren was stronger than dienolone. I know it makes absolutely no sense. But the amount of size and strength it packs on and how fast is freaky. I don't know if I can think of anything that put on as much size and as quick as dienedione...

  14. LOG: Dienedione + The One: first rodeo since 2019

    I put on like 25 or 30lbs on dienedione. Sounds much more fun than it actually was. In many ways it was the harshest compound I've ever taken and by far the hardest recovery. I didn't want to ruin your cycle, but personally I would never run it again unless I was maybe on TRT already.

  15. Trenavar, how bad for endurance?

    I think dienedione is the one similar to dienolone. Personally, I found dienedione to be stronger than dienolone, which is odd because it's the PH to dienolone. Trenevar is trendione I belive. Although I feel like you're right and there was another "tren" compound out there... can't remember...

  16. New CEL ALPHA ONE available now!!

    Unfortunately it's not good anymore. I know a guy who can dispose of it free of charge.

  17. PFlow's TRT + PED Chat & workout Logs via Tonal + dumbbells

    I really can't recommend anyone as I don't follow these guys much. I recall seeing some kids on social media promoting gear and acting as trainers, basically encouraging younger kids to use gear "safely." It just puts me off to the entire thing. I know there are some good guys out there with...

  18. PFlow's TRT + PED Chat & workout Logs via Tonal + dumbbells

    Interesting. I've only seen Paul Carter discuss hypertrophy training and nothing about diet, although I've admittedly only come across him recently. He does cite studies but it does feel like he is being fed the information and reading it from a teleprompter like it's not his own words. I've...

  19. New CEL ALPHA ONE available now!!

    Oh wait.. this is actually a new product. I'll have to check this out. I thought someone was selling the OG CEL Alpha One.

  20. New CEL ALPHA ONE available now!!

    Dick!
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