Ok I don't think it's the opiate that is so dangerous to the liver. The major liver risk comes from meds like Percocet, Vicodin, etc. that have *Tylenol* in them.
What I would worry about is was what I heard referred to as"opiad". Opiate induces androgen deficiency. If you are deficient...
^^^This. I couldn't seem to stay lean and I wasn't gaining while on low dose of roxy for my back. Since getting off opiates I have increased strength enough that my back actually doesn't hurt anymore except for about an hour before it rains...
I would be worried about suppression of natural testosterone production. Opiates can already cause suppression of the HPTA and adding anabolics could make it worse
People are definitely bashing the potential of 6-chloro on some boards, but I am still super interested to see some logs and reviews. I'm considering logging it myself at 100... Maybe...
Do you know if the metabolism issues apply to SNRI's as well as the SSRI's? If I'm, for example, on Effexor XR, what should I expect these products to do to me?
Don't only listen to people who push you to do more. Only go as far as you feel comfortable. I think at least take just 18 the first day and if you feel comfortable jumping straight up to 36 after that then fine... I was trying to increase dosage to avoid "wasting" days on my first Hdrol...
Man... Don't you wish the FDA would regulate that things are what they say they are at the dose they say they are, then STAY the HECK out of my choices of what I take? That'd be nice
My balls got huge in 2 days on torem and I started getting random boners, but I guess my next bottle from the exact same source could be bunk so I see your point...
Me too. I was scared of Msten because I'm scared of SD and didn't feel comfortable with the levels of SD that would probably be in any of them. This one has me interested though.
From the product explanation i saw:
"WEEKS 1-4
HEXADRONE 100mg daily split in divided doses (50mg caps)
We have found that the best results were seen when users reached the 100mg daily dose. Advanced users may go up to 150mg daily,however we do not recommend exceeding the 2 caps daily. This...
Hmmm I wasn't sure what it was because that's the nomenclature from the ad I saw but I thought it mentioned being Chloro... So low oral bioavailability or actually methylated even though they claim its a non-methyl?
Interesting. I'd actually prefer for it to be underdosed as I'm trying to ease in. I had a failed Hdrol cycle and need to go milder for peace of mind this time. I am going to probably run FRL Alpha Bulk for 8 weeks or so and thought I'd stack Alpha Mass or maybe Epi at a lower dose, probably...
Shredded Labs has something called HEXADRONE in 50mg caps. The description says it's 6a-Androst-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol.
Has anyone used this before? Does anyone know anything more about it? It sounds interesting. Any info would be appreciated
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