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  1. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    No worries! From our daily conversations thus far, I think all our rep are genuine guys with good intentions. My reps stand behind me, so I have to stand up for them (in the appropriate situations of course). I posted a more elaborate explanation and went more in depth after my rep's post...
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Thank you, we'll always back our products but at the same time we've very receptive to feedback.
  3. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    With all due respect, one of the flawed arguments in the acreoline debate is the backwards extrapolationg of the acrea nut and acreoline. There's no doubt that the acrea nut and it's ROA causes damage if used long term, but the acrea nut and it's extracts are a combination of several different...
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Stepping in for a quick reply on behalf the company: Yes the article is very broad/general but the referenced 2016 study has the exact data you're looking for. I think for a lot of people, there's an assumption that because acreoline is in acrea nuts, and areca nuts are a carcinogen that...
  5. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    As a small and growing business we're very receptive to customer feedback. When you're a larger company, you have a much larger audience base and it's hard to appease everyone.
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    The New Product Release Thread

    I can agree with that sentiment! It's not a majorly crucial part of our formulation so we can remove it and most likely will. But please understand from our point of view we also have to defend why we initially put it in there. If we don't , it gives competitors a potential talking point against...
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Morning! Another user linked that same document, take a look at my detailed analysis here : http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/273260-new-product-release-394.html#post5664670 A quick synopsis is that there are simply not enough conclusive results to say arecoline itself is harmful at...
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    most hardcore pwo

    Ah I know, hence the "...",?
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    most hardcore pwo

    Thank you! Hopefully people will use our products responsibly...
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    most hardcore pwo

    Appreciate it! We're a growing company and would love any feedback good or bad. Thanks for checking us out.
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    most hardcore pwo

    Yes we're working on sample packets! :)
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    Topic of the Week - What's the best fat burner supplement of all time and why?

    It is 3,5. Yes please check out our acreoline debate currently here:Invalid Link Removed
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    Topic of the Week - What's the best fat burner supplement of all time and why?

    To clarify further, vinpocetine still has to go through the formal FDA procedures to ban it completely from use in the dietary supplement industry. If you go on Amazon now you can find several big brands still selling vinpocetine.
  14. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    Nice find! I think the two things I draw from this is 1. " It seems unlikely that arecoline/areca has reinforcing effects mediated by the low level of nAChR activation produced. " aka the first stage of addiction. And 2. "his may lead to dependence and promote craving and withdrawal if is areca...
  15. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    Yes I believe you're right some companies did/are removing arecoline. I heard over at BodyBuilding.com there was a big debate over this for some time as well. If for a lot of consumers the difference between buying or not buying our Controlled Burn product is due to the 5mg of arecoline, then we...
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Absolutely, I understand your concerns and as mentioned before if a lot of people have a concern with it we can remove it on our next run. There's another aspect of the areca nut that I forgot to mention as well. It seems that most natives that chew on areca nut use it almost like chewing...
  17. VeinNutrition

    The New Product Release Thread

    We'd love your insight/opinion on acreoline! We're very open to feedback and change and if there's a compelling argument or a few conclusive studies, we'd be happy to reformulate.
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Ah I see, that's a good catch.Thank you for that. The human adult is a 37 ratio, rat is 6 , so multiplied by 6/37. Let me go back and edit that! Edit: Values have been corrected for human dosing. For 100mg/kg rats, it ends up being 16.22mg/kg for humans. So for a 90kg adult that's 1460mg of...
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    The New Product Release Thread

    Yes that's true but I do not believe there are any studies right now involving acreoline on humans, the scaled dosing is just to simplify the argument. I just did a simply ratio as the closest thing there is. I absolutely agree that you cannot do a 1:1 extrapolation like that from animals to...
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    Vein Nutrition "Your'e so Vein" Valentines Contest

    Haha sick pic! You're making that car look small!
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