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  1. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Just using 4 pumps of the brand Androgel 1.62% alone (81mg total) I was seeing about the same number, ~600 total testosterone. It doesn't seem like the Phlogel is doing too much for ya, or perhaps the additional concentration isn't carrying throughly with their DMSO mixture. I'd advise trying...

  2. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I've routinely taken my blood tests about 3-4 hours after applying 4 pumps of Androgel + Phlojel Ultra, which is what was advised from my doctor. From what I've seen in the Androgel literature is the T-levels should remain steady throught the 24-hour interval, with a slight spike after the first...

  3. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    My only hesitance from ordering generic testosterone gel from the Internet is the uncertainty of what exactly you are ordering. It's almost like taking a street drug without knowing the history of the product. I did try the 1.62% generic gel which has 10% DMSO mixed in, and it seemed to be...

  4. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I'd like to see some more data on bloodwork before using Phlogel and after using Phlogel. I've personally seen my t-levels double from 600 to 1200 just from applying a thin layer of Phlogel Ultra after applying Androgel. I'm getting ready here in a few weeks to take another blood sample using...

  5. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I also reached between 500-600 total T with 4 pumps of Androgel daily alone, with no DMSO nor Phlogel Ultra. I was reading through the full Prescribing Information guide on Androgel's website (Invalid Link Removed) and if you search on Estradiol, you'll only read a statement "The mean estradiol...

  6. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I had my follow-up meeting with my doctor today and we're trying to tackle my high Estradiol that was last recorded at 88.3 PG/ML, which was when I was using 6 pumps/day in the morning + Phlogel Ultra. The upper boundary for my test was 40PG/ML so my E2 is over double the limit. I haven't had...

  7. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I think your hot shower is temporarily expanding the pores on the skin to further increase absorption, so you'd want to take advantage of this timing window immediately after drying off. Another good option is immediately after leaving a steam room. I'm very convinced that you will hinder...

  8. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    OK folks, I have some updates since I originally posted this thread and would appreciate some feedback. When I first started using Androgel 1.62%, I would take a hot shower and immediately after drying off I would apply 4 pumps, which were one pump on each pectoral, and one on each shoulder...

  9. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I similarly was around a total t-level of 250 with 2 pumps of Androgel, then 4 pumps brought me up to around 590. Now combining that with phlogel ultra I'm around 1200. I'm not a big fan of applying DMSO to my skin regularly and phlogel seems to be very effective.

  10. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Yes, you can order from them w/o a script and the package arrives from an art supply store in Oregon :) Shipping is incredibly quick and the product is very high quality. It's exactly $50/bottle including shipping and I've used 2 bottles with success. I actually think their formula with DMSO...

  11. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    I ordered (2) bottles from Androrxshop last month and I did notice it was a different formula with the DMSO. It is a bit more gel-like that the Androgel and it stays on top of the skin a bit longer. So far it has seemed like a great product!

  12. Modafinil (Provigil)

    I would go 2 days on, 1 day off, or 3 on/2 off, etc. I just took about 2 weeks off of using Nuvigil while on vacation, and it seems to reduce my tolerance significantly. I've also find that Nuvigil seems to give me a thermo effect similar to fat burners, and I sweat alot more than usual. Be...

  13. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Cool! If you could PM me some of that info to create the kits or raw materials, I'd appreciate it!

  14. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Yeah, definitely this Androgel is nuking my past stubborn fat that never went away previously! What's crazy is I've even dialed back my cardio to only 5 min for warm up every day and no other steady-state or interval training, and I'm losing fat like freakin' crazy. On the 4th of July I...

  15. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Thanks, that's great advice. I actually do feel pretty stellar now with my total test at 1205. Any opinions from you (or anyone) on my free test values? I've basically tripled my total test within about 2 months and the most significant side effect is fat loss :) I've dropped about 8lbs and...

  16. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Correction....Testosterone free reference interval is 1.0-2.7

  17. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    Here are my actual lab results from applying the 4 pumps of Androgel 1.62% along with Phlojel Ultra. How do they look? What are the risks of maintaining a total testosterone leveof 1205 long-term, besides possible elevated PSA values? ______________ Testosterone Total: 1205 ng/dl, reference...

  18. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    BTW, I'd like to hear what your updated test results are after applying the Phlojel Ultra and see if it's as effective.

  19. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    When I originally contacted JAR Pharmaceuticals, they had never heard of anyone attempting to mix Androgel with their Phlojel Ultra, and they informed me that mixing the alcohol in the Androgel may weaken the properties of Phlojel and lower the absorption rate. They said instead of mixing them...

  20. Androgel 1.62% Review/Feedback

    With my usage of applying a thin layer of Phlojel across my upper chest and shoulders/back once per day after 4 pumps of Androgel 1.62%, I'm expecting my initial 100g bottle of Phlojel lasting between 1-2 months. I'm getting ready to stock up on the 500g container of Phlojel for $100 including...
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