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  1. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Thanks for that info! Never heard of GVT until you posted that. Thinking that would be the best to do with what I have for the best possible gains?
  2. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Here's the part off the havoc bible : Dosing For first time Epi-Havoc users it's recommended to begin with 30mg and then slowly work it up to 40mg which is considered to be Epi-Havocs "sweet spot". More experienced users with more advanced past pro-hormone or designer steroid usage can...
  3. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Hey man I appreciate your response and passion to inform. As far as the weights go, it may not seem like a lot, but to me it is. And as I get stronger I will add more weights. And I will be doing curls, shrugs, shoulder presses, butterflys and a **** ton of crunches. And there's plenty of heavy...
  4. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Damn. Well, I'm going to run Havoc just so ill have a cycle under my belt and then later possibly run that or SuperDrol in the future. I just want to get my feet wet and see how I react to this cycle and go from there. I have been reading more today and if I get 10lb gain or so, I'll be happy...
  5. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    No one else has anything to say? Chime in! Let me hear your opinions. I'm stoked to be doing this cycle and the more input I have the better it will go!
  6. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    And yes I'm a a hard gainer. 110%. And trust me, I'll be taking that advice and eating anything I can get my hands on. And I will continue creatine unless I can tell its making things worse. Here's to the best and a good first cycle :)
  7. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Also I'm not pulsing the doses. I'm taking a normal cycle of Havoc. So I'll be taking one upon waking and then 4 hours later my Cycle Assist and then my Havoc and again 4 hours later Cycle Assist.
  8. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Don't laugh. I live in a small, and I mean SMALL town where there is not a gym. I have a wife & 2 young kiddos to tend to so working out will be at home with the materials I have. I have adjustable dumbbells that go up to 50lbs right now and I can do most workouts at 40lbs and at the end of a...
  9. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Yeah I am a hard gainer and I'm not expecting a 15lb gain I'm just setting a goal (maybe far fetched) but its what I'm going to work for. I'll be stuffing my face every day and we will see what happens. I could care less if some is fat, right now I'm mostly concerned with gaining weight period...
  10. SkinnyChase

    First cycle

    Right off the bat is not smart. See how far you can get naturally then if you've really hit your peak, RESEARCH into using. But don't just be like "hey I wanna get bigger" *buys gear, no proper support or pct, and has horrible health afterwards*... Don't be that guy.
  11. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Also I'll be working out 4-5 a week. Maxing out on every rep.
  12. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Start out at 10? That's awfully low. Even with first timers I've read a lot about starting no lower than 30. Even on the "Havoc Bible" says first time users should start at 30 and that 40 is the sweet spot for most users. And stop the creatine? I thought it was ok to use creatine during cycle...
  13. SkinnyChase

    First cycle

    I bought Havoc three days ago online from a store and they sell it on amazon as well. It's an epi and legal. Actually starting my first ever cycle next week. But like others have said I'm using CEL Cycle Assist and loading up on liv52, fish oil, and CoQ10 and taking a multi. Also map out a good...
  14. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    And to answer your question, yes I'm trying to all out bulk. Thanks for your response.
  15. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    Yeah I have and from what I've seen (mostly) people recommend epi as a good first cycle to run. I was offered a bottle of SuperDrol from my brother in law but I think Havoc will be slightly less harsh and a better choice as a first cycle PH. And yes I've read success stories on epi being a good...
  16. SkinnyChase

    Starting Havoc 1st Ever Cycle

    I'm gonna to be running RPN Havoc for my first ever cycle. I've done tons and tons of research (months) and have my PCT set up and all the support supps ready to load a week in advance as well as on cycle. I'm 5'10" and weight around 155 (dont laugh) with hardly any body fat. And yes i work hard...
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