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  1. OldShakerCup

    First PH Cycle, Havoc/Tamox

    Where did you get the havoc from? There's been plenty of fake bottles floating around on Amazon. I would keep it simple and clean for your first cycle. Keep it at 30 mg all 4 weeks. Your PCT looks good but since you have 30 mg tabs I'd do 30/30/15/15. I would add 6g of fish oil a day on cycle...
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    Every oral/sublingual IGF/Deer Antler extract

    I can't seem to find any threads about these products so I'll go ahead and share my experiences in case the stuff is still floating around. Sorry for venting: These are all useless forms of IGF that for some reason I continued to try and expect results looking for a healthier alternative to...
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    PCT and PH help

    Something mild like halo or pmag (very similar) at 50mg for 4 weeks are the only things I would feel safe taking without a SERM. Nobody I know back home that takes PHs even know that they exist so I commend you for looking it up. This is because the dumbasses at the local supp stores that sell...
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    First PH Log

    How far are you in? Yeah my forearms and elbows get sore too from heavy presses but goes away like 30 min pwo when on anything. Grab some glucosamine HCL and up the fish oil to 3g 2 x a day. Pound the water before taking any stims so you don't just piss it right out.
  5. OldShakerCup

    Quick PCT Q

    I second that. Works better for me than mega doses of DAA.
  6. OldShakerCup

    Epistane PCT

    Overkill on SERM and AI. Pick one or the other, erase or PCT revo. I prefer clomid over Tamox with epi due to emotional sides. Also missing natty test boost. DAA seems to be solid for everybody but me on PCT. I prefer Pro lab goat weed.
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    Another gyno reversal thread

    My buddy has had gyno for probably a year and half from an epistane cycle that developed after PCT which obviously did not include a SERM. I tried putting him on the letro/Tamox regime about a year ago yielding only slight improvements. He had since seen his GP which gave him 10mg nolva...
  8. OldShakerCup

    Help with stack: LGI Alpha 20, Stano 200, Mag 25

    Thanks for the input. I'll grab more pmag and Stano in the meantime.
  9. OldShakerCup

    Help with stack: LGI Alpha 20, Stano 200, Mag 25

    Well it seems as if my brilliant self has been ordering LGI products from fake Amazon sellers. I see the name, and immediately trust the quality despite being aware of Amazon's BS. I have my card on file on their app on my phone and get tempted with the convenience. All bottles appear legit to...
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    First PH Log

    I read this on prohormonedb. Appears to be a user friendly reliable source if one exists regarding PH's. I feel like SD should be off the charts though. Popular methylated (17-aa) legal oral steroids and their toxicity rating: •Superdrol and clones: 17-aa steroid, Toxicity rating (1-5): 5...
  11. OldShakerCup

    First PH Log

    If everything is in check, you should blow up with epi as your first cycle at that dose. I've taken my share of EP STANE by DF solo and have put several friends on it. This is what i have experienced/observed vs commonly accepted claims: In theory: 1. Cheap PH, often only one bottle needed with...
  12. OldShakerCup

    Furuza 50 help for friend

    1. Yeah I figured one bottle wouldn't do much but it was worth a shot. 2. He only developed the gyno from Ep Stane after PCT. Slight sensitivity after a 4 week DMZ/LMG stack which never worsened from there. His PCT after the first cycle may have been worse than the Second. No SERM either time...
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    Furuza 50 help for friend

    My buddy has "let himself go" so to speak and is looking to get back into the gym and clean up his diet. His main goal is to shred BF and tone up (Yes similar to that of a woman). We used to lift together religiously but he has fallen off the fitness wagon due to the combination of finishing up...
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    Help with stack: LGI Alpha 20, Stano 200, Mag 25

    Trying to regain strength and mass back after downtime due to injuries. I won't be able to do much of anything until March of '14 totaling 5 months of practically a sedentary lifestyle. I would like to start the cycle after regaining some strength and proprioception. I've never ran more than one...
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