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  1. Worried about Gyno

    In my early 20s I ran a 3 different pro-hormones back to back to back with no PCT and developed gyno. Not fun at all. No other real sides thankfully. Fast forward about 10 years and looking to run some 11_oxo and some Havoc. I dont want to have the same issues and want to do everything I can do...
  2. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    everything is ordered but i am still very nervous about the chance of gyno again.. i know i am doing things a lot safer and the right way this time but still second guessing myself. I wish there was a way to be sure!
  3. 11-oxo results?

    i think my big issues is fearing gyno. that is why I am considering this supplement as it seems to be very mild.
  4. 11-oxo results?

    anyone use 11-oxo for cutting? How did it work for you?
  5. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Ok so last time lol... 11-oxo 4 weeks at 600-900 mg Liver Stabil and Lipid Stabil (Molecular Nutrition) pantethine from Jarrows NAC Fish Oil Havoc week 5-8 - 30/30/30/30 Liver Stabil and Lipid Stabil (Molecular Nutrition) pantethine from Jarrows Fish Oil NAC TUDCA Week 9-12 Tamoxifin Liver...
  6. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    my apologies on wrong section
  7. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Thanks, yea I dont know if I am gyno prone or if it just happened because I ran 3 different PH with no PCT at all lol. I would rather just stick with Tamoxifin and fish oil. What is the NAC supp again?
  8. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    i believe they were small 10mg caps
  9. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Should I use only the tamoxafin for pct or still use the kings blood and rebirth? Also eradicate or leave that out since we will use the tamoxifin? I have the perscription from when I was presecribed it from when i went to the doc years ago for the gyno issue.
  10. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Yea i got gyno last time way after i was done with the bottles... think i am worried more about the post cycle rebound. thats where the tamox comes in?
  11. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    So just to confirm everything I am thinking this... Week 1-4 - 11oxo 600MG up to 900MG Still use ProteX Cycle support Fish Oil Week 5-8 - Havoc probably 30mg/week ProteX Cycle support Fish Oil Week 9-12 Kings Blood Rebirth Tamoxifin (20/20/20/20) Eradicate on hand if needed This look good?
  12. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Thanks for the input. Really helpful. I am nervous to touch anything again after the last time but with some PCT I hope that with the mildness of the oxo and from what I head on the epistane I hope that I do not have any issues. I think in my 20s it was EPI 2A3a, then Chlorovar, then Tr3n.. What...
  13. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    so when do you do your bloodwork? and wouldnt the doc just prescribe you something anyways if levels are out of wack?
  14. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    do you think you need the tamox if using the 11-oxo only?
  15. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    I like that idea as well... what dosage of the 11-oxo do you think would be good? And with the tamox for pct what dosage as well?
  16. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    I was only going to run the Havoc for 4 weeks at 20/30/30/30 or maybe 40 last week
  17. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    I understand. My biggest fear as I am sure most have is the gyno. I had the issue in the past and dont want to have that happen again. I literally ran like 3 bottles in a row with no PCT in my 20s. not very smart :(
  18. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    not sure. had it actually perscribed by the doc way back when. what is the dosage that should be taken of tamoxifin? I may still have enough if its still good.
  19. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    is it only liquid or is there a pill form? I have some old taxoxifin about 7 years old still in my cabinet
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