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  1. 11-oxo results?

    Any recommendations about taking a pre workout with 11 - oxo? I started 2 days ago. 600mg a day and am feeling very tired. Should I add in a preworkout or just start the test booster with it?

  2. 11-oxo results?

    What do we feel about PCT?? Really supre ssive at 600 mg?

  3. 11-oxo results?

    Sounds like 11kt is the way to go lol but i already have 11-oxo on the way. Should it have the same result since its the same just not TD? Anyone with info on this one at 300 to 600 mg i would appreciate your review. Thanks

  4. 11-oxo results?

    I think I want it more for the fat burning which they say to keep it at the lower dosage. will maybe run it at 300-600 mg max

  5. 11-oxo results?

    I think I want it more for the fat burning which they say to keep it at the lower dosage. will maybe run it at 300-600 mg max

  6. 11-oxo results?

    And sides? What u do for pct?

  7. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Yea definitely nervous. With the issues in the past def got me shook. But part of me is like 3 pro hormones and no pct gave me gyno. 1 ph with ur helps on pct i should be fine lol

  8. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Makes sense. I may run just the 11 oxo first to get my feet wet.. Seems like this is supposed to be very mild. U think the nolva is still needed?

  9. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Anywhere good to get the capsule form?

  10. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Juat checked. I only have about 15 tamoxifen 10mg pills left. Any chance I could run that for a week and then eradicate for a couple weeks? Would this be sufficient?

  11. Worried about Gyno

    I had surgery to remove what i had back then so there's even the possibility i herd that it cant come back cause the glands get removed. Not sure how true that is but it was wierd i only got it on the right side.

  12. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    gotcha... i would think if i had issues and said it maybe from supplements I have been taking that my doctor would order it.... hopefully it doesnt come to that.

  13. Worried about Gyno

    You think I would be better off just running the 11-oxo then for say 6 weeks to cut and then using a OTC PCT? I would probably only run it at about 600mg.

  14. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    So its not in routine bloodwork? It would have to be additional blood tests that are ordered?

  15. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    Would all the levels, test, estrogen, prolactin, basically everything relating to possible gyno be checked in bloodwork?

  16. Havov Cycle / Possible 11-oxo stack/bridge - help

    If prolactin levels are high would they find that in the blood work? If so wouldnt they give you something to treat it?

  17. Worried about Gyno

    Yea seem pretty similar definitely. I hear mixed things on Havoc being mild and some saying it definitely isnt. I think the consensus is the 11-oxo is pretty mild. Most saying you dont even need a SERM for it. How would I know if either are Dry or Wet? Also hoping with PCT if I just insert...

  18. Worried about Gyno

    Yea i think the rebound is definitely the issue.. What do you go with for an AI? Where to get it? Also does Nolva work. I think I can get that easier?

  19. Worried about Gyno

    I was a mess back then lol... Ran EPI2A3A, Chlorovar, and Tr3n. All orals. I really liked the EPI2A3A. strenght shot up through the roof and even though diet wasnt great still lost a lot of weight leaning out. Same goals as then, lose some weight, lean out and put on a few pounds of muscle...

  20. Worried About Gyno

    In my early 20s I ran a 3 different pro-hormones back to back to back with no PCT and developed gyno. Not fun at all. No other real sides thankfully. Had the surgery and got it fixed. It was only on my right side. Fast forward about 10 years and looking to run some 11_oxo and some Havoc. I dont...
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