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  1. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    UncleSarm, great advice and knowing for sure is much better than going off of feel alone. Day 11: Rest day, legs surprisingly not very sore. Although typically the second day is worse my legs always feel more doms than other groups. Day 12: Chest/Tricep day. Decided to take stimulated pre on...

  2. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    It is much appreciated, I definitely look forward to the third week. I've read through your log a couple of times and I really like your approach. Any feedback or experience you wish to share is always welcome.

  3. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 11: Yesterday was Legs/Shoulders and I had a great workout. Still adapting to the non-stimulated pre and can't really speak for the effectiveness of triumph/conquer yet but mentally I was there. Feeling good physically and really prepping myself to push myself as much as I can weeks 3-8. On...

  4. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    I can easily see that happening to me. I haven't experienced headaches although I only had caffeine in my pwo, no sodas. I have nothing against the stims I just know its the culprit for me not going to bed until 2am every night and I work in the a.m. I already miss them but hopefully when the...

  5. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Yeah, first time I've used a non-stim pwo and I wasn't impressed. It could have been my overall demeanor but I definitely didn't get that energy that caffeine gives. To be honest I didn't realize how much energy the stimulants gave me until one day without them. Going to continue on the...

  6. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 10: Yesterday was back/biceps and I'm still only able to do around ~50lbs on pulldowns due to my back. That really puts me in a demotivated state. It was also the first day I used a non-stimulated pre workout. I'm using conquer and triumph stacked pwo and to be honest it didn't give me any...

  7. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 8: Nothing to report, Monday was a rest day, feel good overall. Day 9: Today will be back/biceps. Still recovering from my muscle strain and hope to do a little more weight this time for back, still not going overboard.

  8. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Sounds good. I was tempted to start it this week but if there wasn't an actual point I didn't want to. I'm also considering dropping eradicate on PCT and going for Super PCT.

  9. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 7: Off work on weekends. Same schedule, went to gym around 1:30 pm and worked chest/triceps. Kind of felt lazy today but still did normal numbers, nothing above. Tomorrow will be a rest day and looking forward to starting week 2. Question: Any benefit to start taking el1minate early as...

  10. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 6: Off work, so same morning routine and then gym around 1:00. I added tr1umph to my pwo and will be taking conquer stimulant-free on weekdays. Today was legs/shoulders and although my legs are a little sore from last week I had no problem pushing around 5+lbs over my standard, comfortably...

  11. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    The more the merrier, this is all new to me but thankfully the support on this forum is very helpful. Day 5 update: Just finished my first actual back workout in 4 weeks. Although I did very light I was able to complete it without pain, which for me is a huge step in the right direction. I'm...

  12. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 5: Yesterday was a rest day, nothing new to report. Slept much better with new regime. Today I will try and see if my back is good enough to do a light workout. I will also be doing biceps. My hamstrings are very sore from leg day on tuesday. I also did 20 minutes on the stairs after chest...

  13. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 4: Yesterday was Chest/Triceps and I felt great in the gym. Nothing extraordinary however being back in the gym and feeling better overall is refreshing. My back/shoulder feels a lot better today and although I'm not sure I will be able to work back this week I feel like I will be able to...

  14. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Great reply as usual and much appreciated. It is very possible it was the GABA with the bioperine. I've always avoided melatonin based on the few things I have read on it. I'm hoping the stimulants in the pre workout is the culprit as I've had this issue since I started this day shift job a few...

  15. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 3: Last night I had a very hard time going to sleep. This isn't something new to me as I believe my pre workout at 6pm (prejym) makes it hard for me to sleep around 12-1 am. I have recently ordered triumph and conquer stim-free to hopefully combat this. I took ZMA, GABA, Turmeric and...

  16. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 2 Update: Ended up making it to the gym for Legs/Shoulders. I made sure I didn't have a fever and this was my first time in the gym since Friday. Despite a hurt shoulder/congestion it was actually a great workout. The massage really brought out some soreness I didn't realize I had. Skipping...

  17. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Appreciate the subs. Day 2: Unfortunately due to an unforeseen fever I was unable to lift on Day 1. I don't credit this to ostar1ne or dermacrine at all. I believe I was getting a fever and after a thai massage it accelerated the toxins in my body. (I had a lot of knots in my back/shoulder) My...

  18. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Day 1: Applied Dermacrine after morning shower and took 15mg of ostar1ne plus garlic/fish oil/cycle assist after my breakfast shake (6 egg whites, cup of oats, banana and almond milk). I'm not 100% due to a sore back/shoulder and a slight fever possibly from a thai massage this weekend. Had many...

  19. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Do you think eliminate is a better choice in place of eradicate for PCT? I had eradicate from a long time ago but eliminate isn't much cost wise.

  20. Ostar1ne/Dermacrine 8wk log (1st cycle)

    Much appreciated. Thank you for all of your guidance on setting this up.
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