Yeah it's pretty funny. It really has nothing to do with my past experience though. I'm cutting and looking for a mild ph for a longer cycle. I've run gear in the past, but that was before the wife. She's firmly against it but we compromised on the "legal" ones, which of course is pretty funny...
If all you really care about is preserving muscle while cutting, then I would go with 11-oxo. @500-600mg you should have minimal if any shutdown or other sides, and because of this you can run a much longer cycle, which is often necessary for a cut.
And that is basically what I said originally. The reason why nobody would recommend Tren as a first cycle is because of the sides. So I don't understand what you meant by "not even just that". Because that is that.
Give it away, or throw it away. I never took hormones when I was a teenager or even knew anyone who did. So I don't know what the potential consequences will be. I know I would not have risked it for a pathetic $60 bottle of epi. You should value your wiener enough to make the mature decision...
Absolutely to young for hormones. Have patience, get your diet and training on point and you'll make good gains naturally with zero risk of screwing yourself up.
Clomid seems a little high. Clomid can have sides...I would go with 50/50/25/25
Otherwise looks fine. Any particular reason for fear of libido issue. Had any problems in the past? How old are you?
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