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  1. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Isn't caffeine similar though? I think nicotine screws with blood sugar so its not on my short list of things to try.

  2. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    I have extensive personal experience that directly opposes your idea.

  3. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Thinking that the body will heal itself is very utopian. Body needs the right resources, and needs to be able to use them, 2 very big ifs. I haven't magically healed in the years I've been ill. Stabilization is a myth.

  4. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Yeah, I've been on it for a few months now, slowly upping my dosage. It's interesting, more of a long term boost to metabolism.

  5. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    A guy I know online is hyper, and treats it by eating lots of calories and simple carbs, extra vitamin a, and makes sure to get extra micronutrients esp. from liver and shellfish. He follows a ray peat style of eating tailored to his personal thyroid function and activity level. He surfer a lot...

  6. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    But how is the quality of said sleep?

  7. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    I'd trade my hypothyroidism for hyperthyroidism right now.

  8. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    It's true, I think everyone has to experiment on their own with everything.

  9. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    That's great, as I am a bit over reliant on caffeine lately.

  10. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    I plan on trying this out

  11. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Personally I do not believe in adrenal fatigue, the common language is inexact and there's probably better ways to explain what's going on. I was diagnosed with AF and the Cortisone solution became a problem in itself. Hpa dysfunction can probably occur as a cause or effect type issue, in...

  12. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    So u don't value n=1, that's great. And if u are the guy in your profile pic then u don't need to. Like it or not, you are a lucky one. As for the study, I would have to wonder if there aren't some groups if people who believe that pumping out adrenaline 24/7 is desirable. Hell it feels great.

  13. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Because adrenal fatigue is probably thyroid fatigue. But a person would need to check their thyroid status. And judo josh is right on, thinking that just "resting" will somehow restore ppl is funny. We are also talking about different populations, probably most on this forum are in above average...

  14. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Research is very poor in this area. If you work with these clients or suffer from the same issues you will have plenty of data. If you don't then it just becomes a vague myth "out there". This isn't about supplements, because one of the best ways to heal "adrenal fatigue" is with proper diet and...

  15. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    I'm not denying that adrenal overuse and burnout can occur in any number of metabolic states. However those rare (and lucky) hyper thyroid individuals tend to just need more nutrients, esp. Vit a. When an individual is hypo, sub clinical hypo, or auto immune hypo, usually their...

  16. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Yes I'm looking into those as well, thanks. I've tried the above and its hit or miss. I ordered some noopept to try (its a semi-racetam)

  17. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Personally I believe adrenal fatigue is a symptom of hypothyroidism, and also that chronic elevation of adrenaline, epinephrine, and cortisol are unhealthy (although they feel very good short term)

  18. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Yes but at least thyroid doesn't suppress the immune system as some other supplemental hormones such as corticosteroids.

  19. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Yes, that's why I'm looking for "least worst". T3 supplementation would be along thesr lines yes?

  20. stims that don't use the adrenaline/epinephrine/cortisol pathway?

    Stims like hordenine/pea or dmaa activate the sympathetic ns, I'm looking for "stims" that don't. Been researching cordyceps as it has adenosine analogues, and coffee as it binds to adenosine receptor sites... Any ideas?
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