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  1. Abscent minded log. Test e 600mg +winny

    Good to hear you're starting to recover Gerbil. Nothing worse than coming down with a sickness during a cycle.

  2. Abscent minded log. Test e 600mg +winny

    You're thinking is the same as mine lol. And I expressed this logic when looking in to the b12 but from what I was told, the absorption is so close between injectable b12 and the liquid sublingual that its not with the needle... but I too could way off.

  3. Abscent minded log. Test e 600mg +winny

    I looked in to hg inj B12 in the past but was told there was no reason to pin it over taking it orally. I may not have researched it as much as you but Id be interested in find out if this is true, or if pinning B12 really does have an advantage.

  4. First Cycle

    Musclegauge, just curious, but what you're results from the test and winny?

  5. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    If hes cutting he will add SOME weight, but hes always going to be losing bf. If he does it right then no, the weight shouldnt disappear during pct. When I ran this cycle I dropped about 1% bf and went up 6 pounds in weight in 5 weeks. Im 5 weeks past PCT and have kept every ounce.

  6. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Already got that fixed man, thanks. That was my mistake putting the wrong compound.

  7. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    I think you'll be fine as far as back and shins go. You've got your taurine in case. As far as cardio, I don't do enough, but the cardio that I did do was not effected. It was effected slightly during pct though (nolva). I got winded a little quicker.

  8. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    I cant think of a ph that will improve cardio and help you hit those other goals. I believe theres a peptide that supposed to increase cardio endurance, but that would mean needles which arent an option.

  9. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    If you're running the cycle assist I would ditch the liv.52. Milk Thistle and cycle assist should be sufficient. You're only running one methyl and despite what some people say, 30 and 40mgs of epi is still fairly mild. Mild compared to the doses Ive seen (80mgs+). Your cycle assist has...

  10. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Yes sir you are correct. It is dienolone - my mistake.

  11. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Taurine at like 8g when your getting a pump and it should help. I didnt really get any pumps on havoc but most people do get the back pumps. I have a vertebrae thats shifted and other disc issues so I probably didnt know if it was a back pump or typical back pain lol

  12. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Havoc = Epi = E-Stane = Epistane. All the same compound. Trenazone/Havoc should be a pretty dope cycle in terms of your goals. you left out the dosages in your setup though, for TZone and Havoc. I would go 1mL:30mgs for the first week or two, and then if you want bump it to 1.5mL:30mgs...

  13. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    google search Trenazone Bible. Youll find a link to TunedSports. Very informative.

  14. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Ive read many different feedbacks saying that dmz caused some water retention, also read a lot of people saying they saw lean gains with no water retention. Plus with the m-sten/dmz being combined together in the sdmz 2.0, I would think the m-sten would aid in keeping the fluff to a minimum...

  15. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Trenavar/TVar = PH to trenbolone Trenazone = trendione similar, yet lesser results of the injectable tren but less sides. Ive heard nothing but good stuff about trenazone. tmk trenazone/trendione is only in topical form. could be wrong though and maybe something else is just slipping my...

  16. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    What about doin 8 weeks of trenazone with something like an sdmz bridge in to epi? There's not going to be one cycle that's best. It's ultimately up to you to try it out and see how you respond. Diet and training will dictate your body comp.

  17. Cant decide on which ph is best for me

    Lgi tvar I believe is the same as the phf trenavar while converts directly to trenbolone.

  18. PCT questions after havoc/trenazone

    Start erase week 3 of pct @ 1 cap per day in morning. Nolva before bed. just my 2 cents but that's what did. I prefer og erase too.

  19. First Test Cutting Cycle help

    ^This for sure. Not sure how much cardio you do, or plan on doing. In combination with a good diet, HIIT is a great fat burning cardio method

  20. First Test Cutting Cycle help

    As far as diet goes, it's what works for you. Some people prefer low fat higher carb, others prefer moderate carb and higher fats. I personally keep it real simple. I eat clean and with my schedule 4 meals is the most manageable for me right now. iirc my diet during my recomp was something like...
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