Considering that this is your first cycle and it seems that you are still learning a good bit I would drop the M-sten and just do the Tren with stano at 800-1000mg for a 6 week cycle. This would be easier on the liver but still give some decent gains.
Yes all are "test bases" and are a pro hormones that mimic the effects of real testosterone since your natural test levels will be shut down from the m-sten. Make sure you get a good serm for PCT do not depend on anything otc.
Why dont you look into stacking Trest with it instead of tren which would take care of the low libido and lethargy problem just make sure you have a good AI on hand or at the very least PES ERASE (which works very well for me)
Actually it did answer your question and is a good option to add to your cycle it will help with strength as well as lethargy as it acts as a "test base" while on cycle since your natural test will be shut down.
A test booster is not what I am talking about and will do nothing since you will already be shut down from the M-sten and tren. You need to add some testosterone or something similar such as a Trest, 4-AD, Dermacrine or Stano to combat lethargy otherwise you will feel like a slug.
20-30mg per day on the M-Sten RX and 80-120mg of the Trenabol should be good as long as you take usual support supplements.
However you need some sort of test base otherwise you are going to be a lethargic slug stacking those two.
I have taken them both and the m-sten is far more potent and toxic than mecha. I felt great on mecha with mild strength and size gains. On m-sten strength was through the roof along with much better weight gain but at week 3 the back pumps were pretty bad even with taurine at 3g per day.
I can't tell any difference between paddock or Watson as far as quality goes but the paddock 1ml vial that I I've been getting always have nearly 1.5ml in them which isn't a bad thing.
I have had a very hard time getting paddock recently in the single dose 1ml vial. I had to get a new script for the multi dose 10ml vials of watson brand I haven't had much of a problem getting those.
In a year?? People gain 10lbs on PH/DS in a 6-8 week period all the time. 10lbs in a year can be done with diet and training alone and no help from a PH
I am not real versed on this subject since I am on Rx trt. However I would go with clomid but you can add nolvadex in pct as well but don't take my word for it do some research.
I don't know a whole lot about tamox but I would always use a serm over any otc stuff better safe than sorry plus if you use a research chem serm they are usually cheaper than otc stuff.
I don't think it is made under that name any longer iron legion makes it now but I can't remember the name. It is good stuff from what I have read and been told. The only negative I've heard about it is lethargy which is easily solved with test or stano. I think it should be a good bulker. A...
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