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  1. Debdrobium extract in this.....

    I think anybody with half a brain had their intelligence insulted long ago when all of this non-sense started and they doubled-down on their claims of natural plant extracts and alkaloids from Dendrobium, Dendromine, Dendrobex, Dendrobull****, etc...
  2. Debdrobium extract in this.....

    Interesting information and dialouge... Thanks for the link.
  3. Debdrobium extract in this.....

    I was under the impression that there were several different alkaloids (at least according to DS and their Craze product). But it does make you wonder why they would include B-Phenylethylamine HCL with the Dendrobium extract since B-Phenylethylamine is (allegedly) one of its' alkaloids. Maybe...
  4. the most under-rated performance enhancing supplement is....

    Sodium Bicarbonate has been used as an athletic performance enhancer for years.... Just not in humans. The practice of "Milkshaking" has been prevelant in the world of Horseracing for years and is a very effective performance enhancing proceduce. A solution of sodium bicarbonate is administered...
  5. What is this ingredient...?

    You took that much fasted and didn't experience overwhelming nasuea?
  6. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    I've tried all of the PWO supplements you mentioned and if there is one that I believe is IMPERATIVE to cycle it's Craze. Most of us gym rats and bodybuilders only cycle one thing (and even some don't do that), but with Craze I found that a 3-days-on/ 2-days-off cycle worked great. On the Craze...
  7. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Interesting. I nearly OD'd on a new lot of WF because I took too much and it seems you, too, had an adverse reaction to an older lot at the proper dose. It'd be interesting to know what mechanism caused your negative reaction or if it was the degredation over time of a specific ingredient(s)...
  8. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Hardknock, it's funny you mention cards. I head to the local casino here in Kansas City to play poker whenever I can get away from work. It's a passion of mine and one of my favorite pastimes. I "experimented" with different combinations of supplements and prescription medications to find that...
  9. Debdrobium extract in this.....

    PA, I know there's a product review section but since (to my knowledge) this hasn't hit the market yet, I was wondering what you thought about it (specifically the now infamous "Dendrobium"). And do you think we'll start seeing Dendrobium more and more in thermogenic supplements...
  10. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Different strokes for different folks I guess... I found White Flood to be extremely intense in the stimulant department, albeit not a good, "euphoric" type intensity. The first time I used it I looked at the ingredient panel, looked at the tiny scoops and said, "Ah, ****, there's no way 1-2...
  11. What is this ingredient...?

    I hear ya. I returned the product I was taking to Vitamin Shoppe because it made me feel like I was going to throw up if I didn't take it with food.
  12. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Question for PA: Would it be illegal for an individual or company to make a designer PEA and throw it in a dietary supplement if the PEA were not a scheduled drug or something that is considered an Amphetamine Analogue? I know you're not a lawyer but you've been in this industry for a long time...
  13. What is this ingredient...?

    Will do. I've taken another product with N-Coumaroyldopamine and it made me naseous when I took it on an empty stomach. Weird. It seemed to have some sort of thermogenic effect though. I was sweating bullets for a few hours after taking this particular product and it didn't have any of the...
  14. What is this ingredient...?

    PA, I've been reading a lot about the new supplement Alphamine from PES and am quite intrigued. I'm primarily interested in the ingredient N-(2-hydroxy-2-pmethoxyphenylethyl) benzamide that's part of the proprietary blend. I'm curious, first and foremost, just simply what it is and also what...
  15. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    "Effective Ingredients"? That's fine and dandy, but when these "effective ingredients" are not listed in the proprietery blend and have little to no scientific data backing them that becomes a bit worriesome. Aren't you worried about the possibility of negative side effects resulting from the...
  16. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    PA, I was hoping we could talk hypothetical and off-topic for a minute. This Craze nonsense is wearing me out. So completely off-topic of Craze for a moment.... Let's say, theoretically speaking of course, that one were to order a batch of N-Benzyl-2-Phenylethylamine online. If one were to...
  17. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    I have two unopened tubs, lot #'s 1202486. Exp. 02/15. I'd much rather trade for something else unopened and intact than do a $ transaction. For what, I'm not quite sure.... but I'm open to ideas/suggestions. Same offer goes for hardknock. If either of you have the old-school versions of...
  18. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    Yes I do. PM me.
  19. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    That's interesting... Come to think of it, I experienced an entire body anesthethic-type feel whenever I would take more than one scoop. I didn't think much about it at the time because the incredible high followed by the awful crash kept me preoccupied wondering just what in the hell was going...
  20. DS Craze Lawsuit and FDA Action

    This. It's a sad day when we can't have a legitimate discussion about one of the best selling supplements on one of the more popular forums. I know spiking has been going on since the dawn of nutritional supplements but I don't recall a case that has received as much attention as Craze (at...
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