I don't understand all the hate.
The reason for drug usage is not relevant. Nor am I justifying the use. I feel like people are putting words in my mouth?
The whole statement was said in jest because he never defined his term 'toxic' or 'bad for you' and therefore it was tough to respond...
I was just asking what this guy meant by toxic. He never defined it. I don't consider down regulation of testosterone production a toxic effect. It's a negative feedback loop, it has nothing to do with a chemical being a poison.
And just for 'bar trivia' tylenol causes more liver failure...
Why are you being so volatile? Where is the need to call me stupid? I was asking what you meant by toxic? And you still didn't answer.
Tylenol is not aspirin. I never said aspirin anywhere.
What does toxic mean?
If you are talking about hepatoxicity, I'd rather do controlled cycles of a PH for 6-8 weeks at a time than take tylenol every day for aches and pains...
Nothing at the at the food grade or even pharm grade level is 100% pure. It's just a matter of what the other 0.05-1% 'contaminants' are.
In some crappy chinese facilities that 1% contamination might be from the 100's of kilos of AAS they just had running down the conveyor belt. Which is then...
I'm not arguing with you and what you listed was not my argument. I did not say that these things should be legalized because alcohol is. Nor am I saying that androgen supplementation is healthy. I just have a personal issues with alcohol and feel like it's the most awful drug there is. That is...
You also have to realize that if it is neglected fungus WILL grow in it. It's the perfect medium. Make sure to wash whatever container it is in well after each consumption.
FYI
Don't forget (and don't let me get started on) the 'side effects' of booze. Let alone 'cancer sticks'.
Alcohol has done and will do more damage than anything, ever.
This thread has been put to rest.
I agree, like I said, I'm not arguing. It's just more of a semantic issue for me. There are bodbuilders/athletes that are tested for banned substances that some third party organization has deemed banned and bodybuilders/athletes NOT tested for banned substances that a third party organization...
This is my point. I have edited my post above to reflect that. It's not in terms of natural or unnatural, it's in terms of what is banned or not.
If I gathered 10's of thousands of gallons of my own urine (don't challenge me), isolated the testosterone from it and injected that, wouldn't it be...
Testosterone, Insulin, growth hormone are all naturally occurring and EVERYWHERE...
If you think it's cheating because they are synthesized then 99% of the things in dietary supplements should be cheating. Caffeine, Vit D/C/E/A Creatine... BCAA's...
I'm not raggin I'm just saying based off of...
Care to enlighten me? That naked nitrogen is going to get slammed by Monoamine Oxidase anyway. Even if it does act on other tissues, it wouldn't do anything useful to gymrats I don't think.
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