I think you misread my post bro. I said the only blood work I've seen showed shutdown(Wasn't in pct). I've only heard of people say they have bloods proving no shutdown but never actually have seen them.
I'd like to see the blood work as well. I just don't see why it would be suppressive at 8 weeks, but at 4 not suppressive at all? I'm not saying it's not because I haven't tried it or seen blood work for it. Only heard and seen people say they've gotten blood work without shutdown
I completely disagree. Nobody said anything about crashing your estro and having it low, but to keep it in the normal range or maybe a little high is the best option. Whether it's binding or not is besides the point. Having a lot of estrogen built up is not good for you man. Why wouldn't you...
To reiterate what chados said. Nolva just binds to the receptor sites preventing gyno, but does nothing to lower estrogen. Even if you choose to run a serm in your cycle then you still should run an ai even if it's at a low dose. Same goes for PCT, particularly aromasin
Any of it able to maintain? I hear about people hitting a certain body part everyday and it grows but as soon as they stop it goes back to its former size. Wonder if its the same thing with this
I would definitely run a test base even if it's 4ad. Make sure you have some on cycle support for you liver etc. and I wouldn't stack the super dmz 2.0 with it man. Stacking orals is a bad idea to begin with usually, but I did stack one pill of sdmz 2.0 with superdrol and started having back...
If you're talking about running an oral only cycle without test then just don't. Just wait until you can afford test or at least a test base of another sort
Exactly bro. And I use asin in my pct too. Again, why would you want your estrogen (a suppressive hormone to test) high when your trying to recover. Even if it's not binding because of the nolva, it's still there.
That's how I feel. Why people want to bloat is beyond me. And why get all the other health risks of high estro if you don't have to just because you "feel fine". I'll never recommend not using an ai
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