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  1. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Looks pretty scary huh? Haha well it doesn't feel too crazy only hurts when I touch the red area and there's some numbness and it feels swollen. Just my shitty luck. Never doing sub q again!!
  2. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Update on my sub q (infection) at least I believe it is. Anybody know how I can speed up the healing process? It's becoming quite bothersome and stings with touch. Feels and looks inflamed. I don't want to see a doctor, I'd rather medicate on my own. Will it go away on its own? It's already been...
  3. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    I said it applies to naturals more so because we don't have exogenous hormones supporting anabolism and optimal recovery from the workouts. We naturals rely on nutrition and supplements and sleep obviously (which I've been lacking). I don't believe I'm near maxed out but my sleep has been the...
  4. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    The thing is I already dial everything in like a maniac. I, a nerd and enthusiast for gaining size literally have a cabinet of supplements to boost my performance and raise androgens and testosterone and I follow a high quality organic diet but still have this problem with sleep. I'm 21 years...
  5. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    Thanks for sharing. It's always good to hear naturals weight training journeys, since most decide to use gear after so many years. Those herbs you named I tried most of them, however ashwagandha KSM 66 in particular has some reputation for causing anhedonia and emotional numbness, apathy, which...
  6. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    well I do have low energy and the test boosters have helped tremendously, they are expensive but well worth it as a natural lifter. The years of poor sleep have caused this fatigue and lethargy which im still trying to figure out what's causing the sleep problems. My theories are overdoing...
  7. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    So taking the test boosters continuously while deloading is better then to not?
  8. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I think there's a saying that higher testosterone and androgens causes less pain tolerance and more risky decisions. And since this is mainly a steroid forum I could place bets that some of you get excited and find pleasure at the thought of jamming the needle in like nothing. Personally the 1"...
  9. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I can assure you that my balls haven't been replaced. Now that I accomplished this easily. I think they trippled in size 😂
  10. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    UPDATE: I tried the shot IM today, left side rear delt it went in smooth! However my delt feels sore and has the same old dull ache you get from the typical hospital shots. Now to continue this way.... hopefully :D
  11. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Definitely need to trial IM (rear delts) and report back. But I'm such a sissy when it comes to shots I guess I had a bad experience from the Sub Q minor infection and sting. Any tips for hyping myself up for IM shots? Do y'all just jam it in like sergeants?😂😂
  12. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    It's almost like the carnitine stays in the intestines and served a purpose of shuttling out the food. Because fasting helps, anything I eat after comes out basically. Wonder why.
  13. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Also I'm curious if this is causing malabsorption from the food I'm eating? If so, definitely gonna stay away from oral carnitine high doses what do you think?
  14. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Well I was wrong in being overzealous with my carnitine trial is making me pay... haha. Seriously it could be used as one of the most potent laxatives ever. One thing important to mention is that I noticed it only happens shortly after I consume food for briefly half a day. Then it dissipates...
  15. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I used 9-10g orally today (LCLT) with a load of carbs (70g). I feel a huge increase in energy and just generally more androgenic. No trouble with stools yet, we'll see how long this lasts. For some reason I feel the oral more then sub Q (1500mg), wonder if that's due to poor absorption sub Q...
  16. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    That is nothing but an assumption I've read that l carnitine forming TMAO is only theoretical and it's not confirmed. I've heard Allicin, the component of garlic can really help prevent this TMAO buildup
  17. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    What do you mean toxic? So the oral version is toxic and the injectable isn't? It has something to do with the digestive tract, trying to figure that out
  18. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I've read users using up to 10grams of l carnitine tartrate in a single dose with a load of sugar to shuttle it into the muscles. The 10grams seems ridiculous lol, makes me wonder why they are dosing so high
  19. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    My experience exactly, but would splitting the dose throughout three whole day help prevent this? Why does the Hershey squirts happen in the first place?
  20. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I think I'll still to l carnitine l tartrate (oral form) for a bit while this lump dissipates. @Hyde what dose oral would you recommend? I'm assuming (3g for androgen upregulation and any more ~10g for fat loss? One thing I've noticed with oral carnitine is anything over 3~4g gives me the runs...
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