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  1. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

    It makes me cocky too
  2. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

    Does anybody else get insane confidence from tongkat ali? I swear it even gives me swagger walk lol is this from elevated dht?
  3. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

    Hey, you again haha. Understandable... I wanted to gather opinions from users in here before re-trialing. Question: Any Downregulation or shift of natural hormone production from long term use of this? In combination of other herbs? One thing for fact is tolerance so would you advice cycling these?
  4. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

    I swear tongkat ali really does feel androgenic. I get super insane stamina, deeper voice (pitches deeper), insane libido/wood frequency and energy. I just want to make sure it doesn't block DHT like this website I showed above advertises. I'll checkout your recommendations
  5. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

    This is why I'm asking if it blocks dht. This website says it does?? Is the website lying and trying to false promote something? Anecdotally tongkat ali feels very good for me. Very strong libido, really deep voice And energy is unmatched. I use nootropics depot 10%
  6. VersatileGG

    Tongkat ali

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    L CARNITINE

    I've heard some bodybuilders or athletes using grams of it, for more fat loss and possibly greater androgen upregulation so I don't know. Hope he can chime in and confirm
  8. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    Has anybody used this test? Is it reliable?
  9. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    I will do the sleep apnea test by lofta. Just to confirm. Fingers crossed
  10. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    For those saying it's sleep apnea. I can assure that it's not. I never wake up gasping for air or drowning with my own tongue. I just wake up, usually to piss at that point.
  11. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    I've actually dropped tongkat ali I believe it lowers DHT, which is a suprise because I felt really androgenic from it
  12. VersatileGG

    Overtraining

    I must argue here, one thing I've noticed as a natural is overtraining has brought me the most size, that's why it backfires on me. how Am I supposed to progress when training less intense and volume I tried it and i shrink quick. The high intensity and volume has made me grow, period. It leaves...
  13. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I gotta ask you guys who use roids or androgens do you all notice anger? Or aggression. Like wanting to break **** for no reason I get this after my workouts. It's hard to control but I manage it. I would've thought I'd be tired out from my intense workouts, it's like it backfires
  14. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    You fellas make me feel so special since I'm natural haha
  15. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Dang 2-4g?! Isn't that too expensive to warrant the benefits, if any at all? Any benefits going that high of a dose that u wouldn't get at 1g?
  16. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    Fun fact he actually did my first shot lol after that he was like no more. He says you could source the stuff from doctors too wonder if he has any in his clinic lol
  17. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    I plan to tell him I'm injecting carnitine eventually, just not soon since we had the agreement a few weeks back. I'm sure he knows with my bodybuilding routine though it wouldn't be uncommon.
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    L CARNITINE

    My dad is a Dr, physician and does wound care in his own clinic and has worked trauma for years, and living with him I could instantly rely on him if anything goes wrong :). I don't want to tell him because we had an agreement that I wouldn't be pinning anything in his household, he'd be upset...
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    L CARNITINE

    I'm sure I'll be alright. the inflammation is shrinking as time goes by
  20. VersatileGG

    L CARNITINE

    What antibiotics?
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