I ran TD trest at 15mg/d just to function as a base. That worked well btw. No lethargy from msten. Oddly enough I noticed some signs of low E with yk11 at 10mg/d. Upped trest to 30mg/d and dropped yk11 to 5mg/d. Symptoms went away. Not saying this is concrete evidence but my experience...
I've run it with trest and it seemed to keep estrogen sides at bay even giving me sore joints in my hands. Upped the trest dose and it went away. For me it helped with E but I'm pretty sure it's not technically an AI. I believe it's progesterone based and reduces estrogen or its effects by that...
I agree. I don't think genetic limit would be measurable being as there's so many variables thus not a good standard for when to begin using AAS. I just meant to suggest that when lifetime natural peak test levels start to decline would be a consideration for beginning anabolic use. Alot of...
Perhaps individual current genetic potential would be a better way to know. For instance when you hit the age where your test levels begin to naturally decline after their peak. Blood testing could quantify that. Of course experience with training, nutrition, and physical condition are all...
Pretty much everything hairy grandpa just said ! lol. I wouldn't add the lgd into the mix like he said- Save it. The TD trest acetate works for me as a base @10-15 mg twice a day. You may be different. You could run it higher and improve gains but risk more sides. I also like to run it 2 weeks...
I like oral trest for preworkout a lot but wouldn't run as a base because of halflife. I'm planning on trying dermatrest one day but haven't yet so I couldn't compare. Board sponsor 7 alpha ace has been good to me. I would be interested in hearing from someone who has used both for a comparison...
15mg/d TD trest acetate works for me as a base. Personally if I were you I'd pick one of the dry(for me anyhow) PH/DS you mentioned you had and run it like that. I wouldn't run it with another wet compound though. DMZ or msten go well with it IMO.
In my experience Trest, like many things, is dose dependent in regards to shut down. A lower dose used just as a base to feel good and fight lethargy had always treated me well without shutting me down hard. I've always recovered easily. Higher doses looking for big gains is another story...
I'm an alcoholic who hasn't drank in years. Not sure what your addiction was to. I would definitely concentrate on your recovery right now. Embrace your workouts and nutrition as a way to help you through recovery. A positive note towards the future- better and safer results from supplements...
My understanding is that ment is the prohormone to trest but active on its own as well. Supposed to be great pwo. I've had some great workouts with oral trest acetate as well
I believe that dvw is correct. That might explain the dry joints but very mild bloat I've felt. No gyno type symptoms for me for what that's worth. I've never been prone however
Yeah that's why I'm giving it a try as well. I read the AI aspect of things but that wasn't part of my "plan". I guess we know now. I'm wondering how it would dial in on a trest run myself.
My experience so far with 10 mg/d yk11 has been overall good. Losing fat and retaining muscle in small caloric deficit. Personally it's a little hard to describe sides as it feels dry in regards to joints but not dry in regards to a very small amount of bloat. Nothing I couldn't tweak with diet...
I noticed some creaky joints with yk11 but some low dose TD trest and it went away quick. Yk11 definitely seemed to have AI properties. I think anavar would make a nice addition. Not sure about the dosing for ligament strength though
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