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  1. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Does that old batch have the same appetite suppression and would you crash badly after? OG Jack3d type preworkouts put me off hard stims for life. That **** seriously made you feel depressed when the crash hit.
  2. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Never noticed the same with other preworkouts btw. They’d be more consistent (be that good or bad). I wonder about dopamine etc cos I’ll say I’ve noticed similar variable effects with compounds that either directly increase dopamine or inhibit reuptake so the very same compound from the same...
  3. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Think there must be some interaction with your body’s neurotransmitter or hormone levels. Fwiw I’ve noticed with doomsday that if I’ve slept a little less (not too badly though) I don’t feel it much. Ditto when I’ve used excelsior, hydrazine. But then when I’m rested a smaller dose hits way more...
  4. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Fwiw I’ve stocked up 6 tubs. Every batch number, look, and effects were identical. The tubs are consistent but some people don’t feel it. I think everyone whose liked doomsday has said every tub hits the same for them as well.
  5. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Did you get yours from predator that time it was in stock for around 2 weeks only? @zufir @muscleman the same for you, I saw you post about getting excelsior and liking 11/25 so must have been the same stock?
  6. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    I hear you but I’m reading people saying the latest batches of excelsior are terrible/great so it’s why I’d think placebo. The thing is what people could test would be measuring heart rate vs different batches of excelsior etc. We’re never gonna get anyone testing these like muscleman asked but...
  7. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    I’ve not tried excelsior for some time, not a new batch anyway but like the doomsday. I’d not be surprised if it’s the same stuff inside and people just respond differently based on placebo effect being stronger for excelsior. Either way if you’re taking the same dose then I’ll stick with the...
  8. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    @CATdiesel76 I think you’re the guy who says doomsday and excelsior’s last batch are probably the same? Does that mean 1 scoop of DD = 1 scoop of XL for you now cos I saw doomsday is marked down to below £70 now. But if it’s 1 scoop of doomsday = 1/2 scoop of excelsior I think I will try the...
  9. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    When you say red specks is that something you can take a photo of up close? All mine are kinda pale red/pink but I remember when I first opened it there was more white on top but after a shake it mixed the contents so color was more even. I think the color is just that - coloring. Without it I’d...
  10. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    How high did it go?
  11. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Agree on ^. A lot of the same guys posting the same feedback over and over gives a skewed impression. But it’s odd for sure that some like, others don’t like the “new” excelsior. If it’s a stronger doomsday then I’d probably switch if it works out cheaper by letting you cut dose in half or...
  12. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    I’m gonna take a break from doomsday cos I wanna use it only for when I’m maxing out. I tried hydrazine on an off day before and while I felt stimmed out (at least compared to Doomsday), my performance tanked. In the past I definitely abused stims. I mean I’ve done 9 scoops of craze, about that...
  13. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Anyone got any feedback on this Smash stuff as I don’t want to be using one preworkout too long, no matter what the preworkout, I always find it’s better to rotate between different ones so if it’s like it’s hyped to be I’m game for that.
  14. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    IME, it works best used sparsely. I notice some decent effects at 1, 1.5 is a good dose and then 2 for me is a bit too much but sounds like it might be about right for you if 1.5 is where you’re getting a noticeable effect. For me at least, 1.5 upwards lets me lift more weight for more reps than...
  15. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Did they send a seizure letter or just sending it back to sender?
  16. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Funny enough, a girl I know whose taken this mentioned it feels kinda like a modafinil type of product to her which doesn’t make sense to me cos I can sleep on this and modafinil, while it’s not a noticeable stimulant (similar to Doomsday), it’s whole purpose is to make people stay awake longer...
  17. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    I think guys using lots of high stim products like excelsior and won’t get much out of doomsday (I think their adrenals won’t be as responsive personally). Guys who like doomsday from what I remember of the other thread generally liked it for performance (speaking for myself I can lift more on...
  18. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Funny story, and yeah you gotta take breaks f . How big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a preworkout to do some gardening? Lol we definitely wanna see before and after photos of your garden! Lol what an amazing story! Just how big is your yard cos I’ve never heard of using a...
  19. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    3/4 of a scoop is too low IME for any preworkout
  20. Supercellular

    Excelsior pre workout

    Haha which one is he cos there’s two guys talking about fighting each other on there but I can’t make any sense of whose who? he must have something strong cos he sounded like he was on a 24/7 binge when he was posting here even.
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