heard many good reviews of APE.
If you want to take a look into Fahrenheit's GF-t21 we have a 10% off deal going until the end of the month here on nutra. I just finished up running it and would run it again :) We have some logs running on here as well :)
Personally I noticed no difference if terms of change in effect taking it first thing in the morning, pre work out, or even post workout (for those week days where i forget to take it when leaving work ;/).
It has some GDA effects but it is not a GDA persay.
If anything you can get away with eating even more including maybe not the healthiest of choices on LG. IMHO of course.. both are dependant on within reason, and all the other cavaetts.
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