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  1. 17 pro andro newbie ?

    I saw the deal on 17 pro andro on Np. Never done a ph and am skeptical of the info provided. It's advertised as virtually no liver toxicity. From the little research I've done people are using OTC PCT. Is this garbage, worth it or what? Not suitable for a first time user? Diet and training are...

  2. Strange question for newbie

    What specific tests would you suggest I ask for?

  3. Strange question for newbie

    Thank you. This is the info I am looking for. No. That is NOT what I am looking to do. This was the advice I was given and that seemed pretty shady to me. Trying to get some clarity from knowledgeable people. And wasn't trying to insult you I have no way of knowing your history just using what...

  4. Strange question for newbie

    And yes diet and training are in check.

  5. Strange question for newbie

    Thanks for the replies but based on all research I have done those numbers are not considered normal. A google search of testosterone levels based on age chart will show what I am referring to. Also from what I have looked into TRT docs will treat at my age if levels are under 500. Some labs use...

  6. Strange question for newbie

    So I had gone to my md and then endo due to low test. Endo is giving me the run around. Total test in the high 300's but highly symptomatic to the point these things are affecting my life. Increased fat in mid section, ed/libido, sleep, mood changes, hair loss etc. I'm 35 with no history of AAS...

  7. Saw endo today and confused on next step

    What other issues could I be looking at?

  8. Saw endo today and confused on next step

    Thanks for all the great yet varying answers. I will take all into consideration.

  9. Saw endo today and confused on next step

    What would be the risks associated with this? Gyno, atrophy etc? I know most sides are a roll of the dice but I am guessing they would be minimal if I just went that route for a month??

  10. Saw endo today and confused on next step

    Yeah I had follow up labs and was on a OTC test booster, changed my diet and training and brought my last levels up to the low 400's. Now that makes it even more difficult to get my point across to my doc. I'm going to finish up this OTC stack & test again (in the late afternoon) and hopefully...

  11. Saw endo today and confused on next step

    I was referred to an endocrinologist after I had my primary check my testosterone levels. I'm 35 years old and was experiencing fatigue, loss or inability to gain muscle, sleep disturbance, libido issues etc. Here are my levels Total 389 Shbg 67.9 Test free 46 Test free % 1.2 Test bioavailable...
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